gnet550 Posted February 13 Author Report Share Posted February 13 9 hours ago, DC2345 said: As of right now I think Sisley goes to Purdue while Mullens and Moreno go to IU. That said there's still time for things to play out. I hate to hear that on Sisley. I always assumed with some family ties and his location he’d be a strong IU lean… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhunter Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 (edited) I do know Sisley was strong with IU last year. I personally talked with his aunt and uncle . I can’t say what he’s thinking this year. I’m sure he’s confused and concerned. Edited February 13 by Bowhunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler Sam Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 9 hours ago, Hoosierinbham said: The Robbie Hummel role of 15 years ago no longer exists in Purdue's offense. Sure it does, if Painter has a 4 with skills. Like Vince Edwards. Painter doesn’t really have an “offense”. He figures out the best way for a particular team to score points that season, and builds an offense around the strongest options. For example, in 2019, the offense was letting Edwards and Cline bomb away. If he gets Sisley, in my opinion it will be because Sisley wants to know who’s he’s with playing for the next 4 years, instead of playing with a rotating cast of portal guys. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler Sam Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 8 hours ago, Fkfootball said: If Indiana hired a coach even close to Painters level, they'll clean up with in-state recruiting. Purdue has benefited from Indiana being down. It's not a coincidence. Painter would really struggle if he stopped landing these Indiana kids. Purdue has historically landed lots of Indiana kids. Less so when RMK was in his prime obviously, but it’s a long list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 25 minutes ago, Boiler Sam said: Sure it does, if Painter has a 4 with skills. Like Vince Edwards. Painter doesn’t really have an “offense”. He figures out the best way for a particular team to score points that season, and builds an offense around the strongest options. For example, in 2019, the offense was letting Edwards and Cline bomb away. If he gets Sisley, in my opinion it will be because Sisley wants to know who’s he’s with playing for the next 4 years, instead of playing with a rotating cast of portal guys. I think that’s fair and accurate synopsis of the situation. The only thing Painter doesn’t have a strong track record with is putting guys in the nba consistently the same way IU does…but I think if you are just looking at the program alone…and where you think you will play your best basketball and have the most success…hard to argue against Purdue at this point. Not only are we down but our coach is in his mid 60s and struggling…every coach in the B1G has to be selling kids on how long will Woody even last…will he be your coach for your whole collegiate career? Not likely at this point. Woody lasting 4 more years is almost nil….if his coaching doesn’t get him fired he will likely retire or slowing down such he will be looking to move on. His age and his program issues will start to work against our recruiting. 1 and done guys might be ok with it….but guys wanting to develop for 4 years have to seriously contemplate it. Woody was a stop gap…that gap is closing fast! If I had a kid that could play at that level today….id probably send the kid elsewhere and not IU….and if we wanted to stay in state and my kid wanted Purdue…I’d say go for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler Sam Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 10 hours ago, dgambill said: The only thing Painter doesn’t have a strong track record with is putting guys in the nba consistently the same way IU does…but I think if you are just looking at the program alone…and where you think you will play your best basketball and have the most success…hard to argue against Purdue at this point Agreed. Painter seems to lean toward kids that will be likely to stay 3-4 years, vs the NBA/OAD types. It’s great for continuity in the program but not so great for the “I’ll get you to the NBA pitch”. Hopefully Ivey and Edey can both prosper in the league, that will help. At the end of the day I still think Sisley is IUs to lose. I’d rather see him there than up north at Thug U… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 15 minutes ago, Boiler Sam said: Agreed. Painter seems to lean toward kids that will be likely to stay 3-4 years, vs the NBA/OAD types. It’s great for continuity in the program but not so great for the “I’ll get you to the NBA pitch”. Hopefully Ivey and Edey can both prosper in the league, that will help. At the end of the day I still think Sisley is IUs to lose. I’d rather see him there than up north at Thug U… You say lean that way? I’d say it’s been more forced that way. You think MM, Langford, Ware, MR…etc would ever end up at PU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 17 minutes ago, Boiler Sam said: Agreed. Painter seems to lean toward kids that will be likely to stay 3-4 years, vs the NBA/OAD types. It’s great for continuity in the program but not so great for the “I’ll get you to the NBA pitch”. Hopefully Ivey and Edey can both prosper in the league, that will help. At the end of the day I still think Sisley is IUs to lose. I’d rather see him there than up north at Thug U… I would rather have a coach who recruits to his system and build a culture. I know Painter has troubles in the tournament but I would rather have him as our coach. I am not a fan of the one and done players and building through the portal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 18 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I would rather have a coach who recruits to his system and build a culture. I know Painter has troubles in the tournament but I would rather have him as our coach. I am not a fan of the one and done players and building through the portal. Ok, @IU Scott, let me ask you this... If Matt Painter had the same record/results at IU that he's had at Purdue, do you think he'd still be our coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 29 minutes ago, Victobmyboy said: You say lean that way? I’d say it’s been more forced that way. You think MM, Langford, Ware, MR…etc would ever end up at PU? I think it’s a little of both tbh. I think early on Painter went for more of the higher-rated guys and missed (I’m thinking guys like Zeller and Dawson) without a great back-up plan and adjusted his approach a bit. I think he looks for great cultural fits and gets in on guys earlier than other schools do (think Kanon Catchings) and has them sold on Purdue before they blow up in the rankings. And I think he’s better about not wasting time on lost causes too. After Tyler Zeller said no, he didn’t waste any time recruiting Cody and knew it’d be a waste of time to recruit Langford. We’ll never be a program that spends big money in the transfer portal because Painter will use it to supplement/round out the roster not completely rebuild it like so many programs are doing these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 16 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Ok, @IU Scott, let me ask you this... If Matt Painter had the same record/results at IU that he's had at Purdue, do you think he'd still be our coach? in 20 years... 1 year past the Sweet 16. no, no he wouldn't. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 16 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Ok, @IU Scott, let me ask you this... If Matt Painter had the same record/results at IU that he's had at Purdue, do you think he'd still be our coach? From a Purdue fan’s perspective, my guess is IU would’ve let him go after his 2013 and 2014 seasons. I think they would’ve gotten antsy and pulled the plug. I think it’s clear now that those two years were an anomaly and far from the norm and it worked out that Purdue gave him the benefit of the doubt when he was going through his divorce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, ledies22 said: in 20 years... 1 year past the Sweet 16. no, no he wouldn't. Curious how many trips past the S16 would be acceptable? Even if he had brought multiple B1G championships? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 minute ago, Stlboiler23 said: Curious how many trips past the S16 would be acceptable? Even if he had brought multiple B1G championships? Not sure. But in 20 years...? More than 1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 Do you blame Sisley with the awful scheme we play on both ends of the floor?? Sisley was a clear IU lean from the beginning but the product is so bad at IU right now you can’t blame him for looking elsewhere…this is on Woodson and staff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 3 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Curious how many trips past the S16 would be acceptable? Even if he had brought multiple B1G championships? The way this board is now. He better be past the sweet 16 before year 4 or 5 or he's out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler Sam Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, Victobmyboy said: You say lean that way? I’d say it’s been more forced that way. You think MM, Langford, Ware, MR…etc would ever end up at PU? You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. Painter builds his rosters very purposefully. And he is constantly reevaluating and evolving his methods. EDIT: and CMP decided a long time ago that he was never going try to out-Kentucky Kentucky. Edited February 13 by Boiler Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 39 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Ok, @IU Scott, let me ask you this... If Matt Painter had the same record/results at IU that he's had at Purdue, do you think he'd still be our coach? Probably not, but I rather have great regular seasons and maybe upset over 1 bad day. I would want more tournament success but would love to have a fun 4 months in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, Boiler Sam said: You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. Painter builds his rosters very purposefully. And he is constantly reevaluating and evolving his methods. Not laughing at you but at the vast contrasts in the fan bases and their opinions of their head coach. Painter - Everything happens because he planned it and wanted it that way. He's got the basketball world on a string. Woodson - He wipes his ass from back to front. That's wrong and he should be skewered. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler Sam Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 minutes ago, ledies22 said: Not laughing at you but at the vast contrasts in the fan bases and their opinions of their head coach. Painter - Everything happens because he planned it and wanted it that way. He's got the basketball world on a string. Woodson - He wipes his ass from back to front. That's wrong and he should be skewered. Just edited my post to add that he is not going to try to Out-Kentucky Kentucky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, 5 championships said: Do you blame Sisley with the awful scheme we play on both ends of the floor?? Sisley was a clear IU lean from the beginning but the product is so bad at IU right now you can’t blame him for looking elsewhere…this is on Woodson and staff We run the same stuff most programs do. Purdue and IU run the same actions. We have no shooting. I know I say it a lot but zoom creates multiple shots. If you don’t hit any of them then it looks terrible. If you are a shooter and can defend then you are skilled and will thrive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: I think it’s a little of both tbh. I think early on Painter went for more of the higher-rated guys and missed (I’m thinking guys like Zeller and Dawson) without a great back-up plan and adjusted his approach a bit. I think he looks for great cultural fits and gets in on guys earlier than other schools do (think Kanon Catchings) and has them sold on Purdue before they blow up in the rankings. And I think he’s better about not wasting time on lost causes too. After Tyler Zeller said no, he didn’t waste any time recruiting Cody and knew it’d be a waste of time to recruit Langford. We’ll never be a program that spends big money in the transfer portal because Painter will use it to supplement/round out the roster not completely rebuild it like so many programs are doing these days. Maybe but let’s be honest…Catchings is a legacy and wasn’t going anywhere else. Like I said you recruit who you might get and pu may win one eventually. I’m just saying he isn’t going to get 1-2 5*. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: Ok, @IU Scott, let me ask you this... If Matt Painter had the same record/results at IU that he's had at Purdue, do you think he'd still be our coach? Easy answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victobmyboy Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 1 hour ago, Stlboiler23 said: From a Purdue fan’s perspective, my guess is IU would’ve let him go after his 2013 and 2014 seasons. I think they would’ve gotten antsy and pulled the plug. I think it’s clear now that those two years were an anomaly and far from the norm and it worked out that Purdue gave him the benefit of the doubt when he was going through his divorce. Archie happened. Crean was drying up. But I’ll tell you he would’ve been gone. Absolutely. To our detriment? Who knows. Couldn’t be any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 13 Report Share Posted February 13 9 minutes ago, Victobmyboy said: Easy answer. Yes, it is... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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