Hoosier4Life53 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said: The response to that though is that we’ve played that style three years in a row. It’s not just missing last offseason and having to adjust to this year’s roster. It’s been every year. Two first round draft picks and a veteran team last year masked the issues we see this year IMO. But even then, we got smashed in the second round. Needed a miracle run late in year one to make the tournament before getting smashed in the first round. Good points, and if it’s the same next season, I’ll be at the front of the line saying it’s time for a change. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 1 minute ago, Indykev said: he isnt coming for less than $6 million. unless you have heard that from him, I would not guarantee that. nothing absolute but some people close to USI and Pearl seem to think the he has made enough money that there is a number but it might not be as high to come to IU. I have no idea just what I heard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Good points, and if it’s the same next season, I’ll be at the front of the line saying it’s time for a change. I appreciate you holding your ground on what you believe, but can i ask why 3 years of the same thing is any different than 4 years of the same thing, even if we win more games next year with the same scheme? Just curious. I honestly have zero opinion anymore on IU basketball. Just don't care enough to invest my energy in one way or the other. But i am always interested in why people go against the stream of the majority. Again, not saying you're wrong or anything. Just interested 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 20 minutes ago, DC2345 said: Dolson has a plan. We just need to be patient because there won’t be real news coming out daily over the next couple weeks and there will be plenty of rumors. Ohhh, I told yall he was announcing retirement at the B1G tourney. Sparking the magical going away run. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ephul Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 20 minutes ago, Indykev said: he isnt coming for less than $6 million. Yeah, he's not taking a pay cut. And if he did, there'd be big, easy to reach incentives putting him over what he's making. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Indykev Posted February 27 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 27 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Good points, and if it’s the same next season, I’ll be at the front of the line saying it’s time for a change. Woodson was asked just yesterday why he doesnt play more 4 around 1. When analytics shows IU is better. He said the analytics dont matter because the data is from short stretches and HE has seen IU win playing with 2 bigs. Woodson said he wins with 2 BIGS. Woodson will never change, even though he said he was glad TJD and Race were gone so he could play smaller. Zebras dont change their stripes. Edited February 27 by Indykev 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 28 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: The only thing that would slow Pearl down on accepting the IU job is not seem so eager that he would do for less money. The guy would move heaven and Earth to become the head coach at Indiana. Since most if not all of the grey area has been removed in college basketball i would take Pearl in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 28 minutes ago, Indykev said: Whats his buyout? before March 31st it's 20 million and after that it drops to 16 million 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 2 minutes ago, DC2345 said: before March 31st it's 20 million and after that it drops to 16 million yeah Cronnin isnt moving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 Just now, dbmhoosier said: $8.5M not talking Pearl but Cronnin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 lol. 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Indykev Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 I wish they taught shooting and how to make a free throw. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 Not trying to be that guy but since the discussion about firing Mike Woodson involves speculation about potential coaching candidates I can't help wondering why Bruce Pearl would want to leave the SEC? The SEC is either number 1 or 2 for the most current NBA players. The SEC overall plays a style of basketball that is decent to watch unlike the BIG Ten which is simply put "straight garbage." I say that while I continue watching BIG 10 basketball because that's what I'll do until I die. Would you rather watch the top 2 teams in the Big 10 play or the top two in the SEC? One game would involve watching a 7'4" player hack everyone death, a free throw disparity of 4 to 1 and Brad Underwood pulling a choke job in the last 8 minutes. While the other would involve modern day basketball both offensively and defensively. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't recall a decent coach leaving the ACC, BIG 12 and or SEC for the Big Ten in the last two decades. Maybe there was 1 but I think that proves my point. If some says Brad Underwood may god have mercy on your soul. Lastly, the Big Ten is not place where NBA talent guards and the best NCAA coaches want to go. If we fire Mike Woodson most likely we will end up with another unproven coach from a mid-major conference. Does that mean we should want Woodson? No, it doesn't but in my opinion the issue will always be roster construction with any coach we hire until the BIG decides not to play bully ball. Change should occur but the type of change we desire for Indiana Basketball will always be limited by the Big Ten. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Ballin Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 2 hours ago, tdhoosier said: Pearl's name has come up before the Crean hire, the Archie hire and the Woody hire. I always assumed that the school thought there were instances he flirted too close to the line (regarding NCAA rules). But I can't remember the details that surrounded narrative. You do have to wonder if Pearl's a good enough candidate now, then why wasn't he the 3 previous times? Because every grey line he's danced on is now gone? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 3 minutes ago, SawatchHoosier said: Not trying to be that guy but since the discussion about firing Mike Woodson involves speculation about potential coaching candidates I can't help wondering why Bruce Pearl would want to leave the SEC? The SEC is either number 1 or 2 for the most current NBA players. The SEC overall plays a style of basketball that is decent to watch unlike the BIG Ten which is simply put "straight garbage." I say that while I continue watching BIG 10 basketball because that's what I'll do until I die. Would you rather watch the top 2 teams in the Big 10 play or the top two in the SEC? One game would involve watching a 7'4" player hack everyone death, a free throw disparity of 4 to 1 and Brad Underwood pulling a choke job in the last 8 minutes. While the other would involve modern day basketball both offensively and defensively. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't recall a decent coach leaving the ACC, BIG 12 and or SEC for the Big Ten in the last two decades. Maybe there was 1 but I think that proves my point. If some says Brad Underwood may god have mercy on your soul. Lastly, the Big Ten is not place where NBA talent guards and the best NCAA coaches want to go. If we fire Mike Woodson most likely we will end up with another unproven coach from a mid-major conference. Does that mean we should want Woodson? No, it doesn't but in my opinion the issue will always be roster construction with any coach we hire until the BIG decides not to play bully ball. Change should occur but the type of change we desire for Indiana Basketball will always be limited by the Big Ten. No lies spoken… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 (edited) 9 minutes ago, SawatchHoosier said: Not trying to be that guy but since the discussion about firing Mike Woodson involves speculation about potential coaching candidates I can't help wondering why Bruce Pearl would want to leave the SEC? The SEC is either number 1 or 2 for the most current NBA players. The SEC overall plays a style of basketball that is decent to watch unlike the BIG Ten which is simply put "straight garbage." I say that while I continue watching BIG 10 basketball because that's what I'll do until I die. Would you rather watch the top 2 teams in the Big 10 play or the top two in the SEC? One game would involve watching a 7'4" player hack everyone death, a free throw disparity of 4 to 1 and Brad Underwood pulling a choke job in the last 8 minutes. While the other would involve modern day basketball both offensively and defensively. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't recall a decent coach leaving the ACC, BIG 12 and or SEC for the Big Ten in the last two decades. Maybe there was 1 but I think that proves my point. If some says Brad Underwood may god have mercy on your soul. Lastly, the Big Ten is not place where NBA talent guards and the best NCAA coaches want to go. If we fire Mike Woodson most likely we will end up with another unproven coach from a mid-major conference. Does that mean we should want Woodson? No, it doesn't but in my opinion the issue will always be roster construction with any coach we hire until the BIG decides not to play bully ball. Change should occur but the type of change we desire for Indiana Basketball will always be limited by the Big Ten. Beilein left WVU for UM. Edited February 27 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 6 minutes ago, SawatchHoosier said: Not trying to be that guy but since the discussion about firing Mike Woodson involves speculation about potential coaching candidates I can't help wondering why Bruce Pearl would want to leave the SEC? The SEC is either number 1 or 2 for the most current NBA players. The SEC overall plays a style of basketball that is decent to watch unlike the BIG Ten which is simply put "straight garbage." I say that while I continue watching BIG 10 basketball because that's what I'll do until I die. Would you rather watch the top 2 teams in the Big 10 play or the top two in the SEC? One game would involve watching a 7'4" player hack everyone death, a free throw disparity of 4 to 1 and Brad Underwood pulling a choke job in the last 8 minutes. While the other would involve modern day basketball both offensively and defensively. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't recall a decent coach leaving the ACC, BIG 12 and or SEC for the Big Ten in the last two decades. Maybe there was 1 but I think that proves my point. If some says Brad Underwood may god have mercy on your soul. Lastly, the Big Ten is not place where NBA talent guards and the best NCAA coaches want to go. If we fire Mike Woodson most likely we will end up with another unproven coach from a mid-major conference. Does that mean we should want Woodson? No, it doesn't but in my opinion the issue will always be roster construction with any coach we hire until the BIG decides not to play bully ball. Change should occur but the type of change we desire for Indiana Basketball will always be limited by the Big Ten. Underwood left the B12 for Illinois and Willard left the Big East for Maryland. On the flip side, a coach rarely willingly leaves the Big Ten for any of those conferences either. Only one I can think of recently is Shrews leaving PSU to ND - which I think had almost all to do with lack of support at PSU and ties to Indiana. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, KoB2011 said: That or the terrible missed double dribble. UVA had a Golden Horseshoe up the backside that year now they can’t score 50? Bennet sold his soul!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 8 minutes ago, btownqb said: Beilein left WVU for UM. Yes, but they were a Big East team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BGleas Posted February 27 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 27 I don't really buy into these rumors, but with that said I think Bruce Pearl is probably gettable and would be a home run hire, though don't love his age. The hard part of all of this, and I'm not trying to start a debate on this, but I also think Chris Beard could maybe be gettable, and I think he'd be a grand slam hire. The problem of course is his recent legal troubles. It just stinks because I think Beard would check most every other box. He's even better than Pearl and younger. Also brings some of the Bob Knight connection, etc. If he didn't have the legal issues, he'd be a grand slam hire. Though without the legal issues he probably wouldn't be gettable. 13 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 39 minutes ago, Indykev said: Woodson was asked just yesterday why he doesnt play more 4 around 1. When analytics shows IU is better. He said the analytics dont matter because the data is from short stretches and HE has seen IU win playing with 2 bigs. Woodson said he wins with 2 BIGS. Woodson will never change, even though he said he was glad TJD and Race were gone so he could play smaller. Zebras dont change their stripes. That's not completely fair to Woodson, he has changed in the past. Like when he was with the Knicks and won a lot of games playing a perimeter oriented scheme, and then the next year he changed to something more similar to what we see now and he got fired. See he's changed.... to play exactly how he plays now, even though it doesn't work. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 7 hours ago, BADGERVOL said: It’s looking based on rumors flying elsewhere that Pearl might be the guy behind the scenes with a handshake agreement. Do you think there’s any traction to this and do you think he’s right the ship and stick long enough to get us semi back for 6-8 years? No I don't. I think Woodson is back next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 5 minutes ago, SawatchHoosier said: Yes, but they were a Big East team. They were in the equivalent of the conferences you mentioned currently, plus WVU is B12 now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 30 minutes ago, Indykev said: lol. Of all the stupid things that have been said, this may be the worst. Is the team frustrated and Mike Woodson just oblivious? Does honorable, leader of men Mike Woodson actually realize they are frustrated, and he's just lying to us? Does the entire team and staff just care so little that having one of the worst seasons in the history of the program not frustrate them? I am sure someone can spin this to not be a big deal, but I'm really struggling to see how that isn't just a completely damning thing to admit from him. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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