IU Scott Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 I thought going into this 7 game road trip the Reds that they needed to go 5-2 but that seems very unlikely. With the Brewers playing the Cubs and Pirates I thought the Reds couldn't slip up this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, DC2345 said: The Reds pitching development has been much different over the last 3 years since Derek Johnson and Kyle Boddy have been hired. Well then those two need to fix Amir from what the previous regime did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I thought going into this 7 game road trip the Reds that they needed to go 5-2 but that seems very unlikely. With the Brewers playing the Cubs and Pirates I thought the Reds couldn't slip up this week Quality teams on the road. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, rico said: Well then those two need to fix Amir from what the previous regime did. I think Amir is what he is. He's an average reliever who's having a bad year. He had a 3.21 ERA two years ago and a 2.45 ERA last year. He's fine as one of your last arms in the bullpen but not as a set up guy or closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 17 minutes ago, rico said: Well then those two need to fix Amir from what the previous regime did. I always thought Garrett was over rated because he was never consistent. He would usually start out well then fade in the second half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, DC2345 said: I think Amir is what he is. He's an average reliever who's having a bad year. He had a 3.21 ERA two years ago and a 2.45 ERA last year. He's fine as one of your last arms in the bullpen but not as a set up guy or closer. He was a starter his entire minor league career. He sucked in that role for exactly 16 games as a Reds starter. Reds' mindset? Let's make him a set-up guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: I always thought Garrett was over rated because he was never consistent. He would usually start out well then fade in the second half of the season. I really don't want to jinx the organization because the homegrown pitching looks fabulous right now. But the history has taught me that Cincy doesn't produce arms very well and more often than not when they do they ship them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, rico said: He was a starter his entire minor league career. He sucked in that role for exactly 16 games as a Reds starter. Reds' mindset? Let's make him a set-up guy. That's not uncommon. I prefer pitchers to develop as starters then when they get close to the big leagues then move them to the bullpen. Typically because a guy only has a couple of pitches which doesn't work as a starter. That's why Garrett is a reliever he only has 2 pitches. Fastball and slider. He's been effective in the past. He's had some stretches this year when he's been alright. That said Bell just isn't smart about when to use him. Last night was another example of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, DC2345 said: That's not uncommon. I prefer pitchers to develop as starters then when they get close to the big leagues then move them to the bullpen. Typically because a guy only has a couple of pitches which doesn't work as a starter. That's why Garrett is a reliever he only has 2 pitches. Fastball and slider. He's been effective in the past. He's had some stretches this year when he's been alright. That said Bell just isn't smart about when to use him. Last night was another example of that. WTF? I don't need an explanation of the nuances of the game. I am emphatically saying the Reds whiffed on any potential, if any, the kid had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 1 minute ago, rico said: WTF? I don't need an explanation of the nuances of the game. I am emphatically saying the Reds whiffed on any potential, if any, the kid had. Maybe you're right but I don't see it that way with him. There were other cases in the Reds past that was the case with. I think his problem is more mental than anything physical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 11, 2021 Report Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, DC2345 said: Maybe you're right but I don't see it that way with him. There were other cases in the Reds past that was the case with. I think his problem is more mental than anything physical. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 Reds down 5-0 in the 4th. I told you that this was going to be a make or break road trip and it is definitely breaking it. Reds played great for 3 weeks but only gained two games in the standings but it is going to take the 3 days to lose 3 games in the standings. There offense has been asleep the lady 4 games and it is obvious they can't hit in Atlanta. I think the hot streak was made against bad teams and now they .are playing good teams it shows they can't compete. I am done trying to figure out how Bell thinks when it comes to handling pitching. Let Castillo stay in to give up 8 runs and tonight Miley is still in after giving up 5 runs on 3 innings. Last night he took out Gray after 5 and only 2 runs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) Well the Reds made a great comeback and took a 6-5 lead in the 11th. Simms got the first two out but then walked the next batter. It brought up the top of their lineup with Albies who hit a 3 run homer to win the game. Walks had totally killed the bullpen all year and it came back to bite them in the ass tonight. Last night Brantley was going off on how the management has to overhaul the bullpen in the off season. I see two major differences between the Reds and Brewers and one is bullpen and the other is the manager/front office. Edited August 12, 2021 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted August 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 Some mornings, you just don't feel like talking baseball. This is one of those mornings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Some mornings, you just don't feel like talking baseball. This is one of those mornings. Another punch to the gut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 One more Cubs stat. Since our no hitter they've gone 10-31 which is the equivalent of winning 39 games in a 162 game season. That's how bad they've been. 2 friends with upper deck season tickets for years can't give their tickets away. I'm sad we were right earlier this season when we Cubs fans said anyone finishing behind us this year in the central not named the Pirates should reevaluate their entire organization/fandom. Haha. Feel for Jake. Just losing his stuff. It's like that rapid fall off for a RB in the NFL who loses that .2 seconds of speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Seeking6 said: One more Cubs stat. Since our no hitter they've gone 10-31 which is the equivalent of winning 39 games in a 162 game season. That's how bad they've been. 2 friends with upper deck season tickets for years can't give their tickets away. I'm sad we were right earlier this season when we Cubs fans said anyone finishing behind us this year in the central not named the Pirates should reevaluate their entire organization/fandom. Haha. Feel for Jake. Just losing his stuff. It's like that rapid fall off for a RB in the NFL who loses that .2 seconds of speed. The way things look concerning the division, you Cub fans better get used to finishing 4th for few years. Of course you could make a big splash in free agency? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 58 minutes ago, rico said: The way things look concerning the division, you Cub fans better get used to finishing 4th for few years. Of course you could make a big splash in free agency? Yep! I'm fine with that as long as I know we are progressing towards something. Not just waffling into the playoffs each year and losing like we have been for a few years. All ready for the next chapter and hopefully Ricketts will open up the purse again and spend this off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Yep! I'm fine with that as long as I know we are progressing towards something. Not just waffling into the playoffs each year and losing like we have been for a few years. All ready for the next chapter and hopefully Ricketts will open up the purse again and spend this off season. Personally, I am just darn old to be watching rebuilds. At least I know I don't have the patience for it anymore. LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 minute ago, rico said: Personally, I am just darn old to be watching rebuilds. At least I know I don't have the patience for it anymore. LOL Handled correctly we could be targeting 2023 season as making the next push. Although if we spend big time it could be a outside chance at wild card maybe next year. All depends on Ricketts. Nobody else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 21 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Handled correctly we could be targeting 2023 season as making the next push. Although if we spend big time it could be a outside chance at wild card maybe next year. All depends on Ricketts. Nobody else. I will have to start paying a little more attention to the upcoming FA market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, rico said: I will have to start paying a little more attention to the upcoming FA market. There are several....but opt outs Arenado and Castellanos are two of the biggest I want. https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Seeking6 said: All depends on Ricketts Oh boy, the Milburn Drysdale of baseball owners... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted August 12, 2021 Report Share Posted August 12, 2021 Walks totally kills the Reds pitching. Braves already up 1-0 after 1 with 1 hit and two walks. I like to see the percentage of the runs gives up that reached base by walks. Also they ate racing a LH starter which the Reds had totally struggled with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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