jv1972iu Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Muddy River said: I really don't want to excuse bad behavior, but there are a couple of things here that do not make sense to me. 1) A group was meeting in the Hoosier National FOREST in the middle of the DAY to watch a LUNAR eclipse? I'm not an astrologist, but none of that makes sense to me. 2) I never heard the "N" word yelled. I did hear one of the people holding a camera try to bait one of the red necks into saying it though. 3) I never heard anyone call for a rope or a noose. 4) If you truly feared for your life, and were given the chance to escape the circumstances, would you turn back on your way out to confront your attackers again? 5) The always relevant "What happened before the cameras started rolling"? I will reserve judgement on this one. Lots of weirdness here. Lots of bad behavior. It brings to mind the phrase "Fat, Drunk, and Stupid is no way to go through life" Unfortunately, our country seems to have a significant number of "Fat, drunk and stupid" people, who feel it is exactly the way to go through life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 33 minutes ago, jv1972iu said: Unfortunately, our country seems to have a significant number of "Fat, drunk and stupid" people, who feel it is exactly the way to go through life. And it's colorless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 18 minutes ago, btownqb said: And it's colorless. Yes it is.. Look up CJ Moore Cape Girardeau... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Yes it is.. Look up CJ Moore Cape Girardeau... Amazing huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 I’m always a step behind. Every time I hear somebody mention the Lake Monroe incident, I keep thinking it’s the previous one. I am sure there will be a Lake Monroe incident post soon where I will immediately think it’s the boys from Deliverance again but it will be some other conflict. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierhoopster Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Guys popular or not the mods are going to step in if/when this starts going off the rails into people's political or socially divisive views. Really, that includes getting into any racial discussion. It's an incident, it's getting investigated, all fair for discussion, but let's not get into another discussion of race here. This isn't the board for that discussion -- regardless what you post, you will piss people off here. This just isn't a board for race-relations discussion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 https://www.wane.com/news/indiana/fbi-investigating-reported-assault-on-black-indiana-man/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 MSN via the Indy Star... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/environmental-groups-ask-dnr-to-review-its-policies-after-alleged-racist-lake-monroe-assault/ar-BB16rROg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 What has been underreported is if this event took place on private property. I have rather strong feelings about trespassers as one burned down the house (unoccupied at the time) on our family farm. I'm curious as to how some of you feel about trespassing, or whether it even matters in this incident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Muddy River said: What has been underreported is if this event took place on private property. I have rather strong feelings about trespassers as one burned down the house (unoccupied at the time) on our family farm. I'm curious as to how some of you feel about trespassing, or whether it even matters in this incident. The property issue needs to be cleared up. Have dealt with trespassing plenty of times. Sometimes a simple misunderstanding, a few times other hunters blatantly poaching on our land. Many a broken/stolen deer stands and no trespassing signs, ratchet straps. Had one stand chained and locked to the tree with a door with padlock over the steps and still stolen. Finally caught the guy and dealt with it. Trespassers are like cockroaches. That said, unless these people were seriously provoked they overreacted bigtime. I dont respect people that cant handle themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Muddy River said: What has been underreported is if this event took place on private property. I have rather strong feelings about trespassers as one burned down the house (unoccupied at the time) on our family farm. I'm curious as to how some of you feel about trespassing, or whether it even matters in this incident. Trespass in general, I don't get my hackles up. It's all about intent to me. Someone wanting to take a nice little stroll in the woods, enjoying nature, no problem. Burn a house, steal deer stands, hunt Genzing... Nope. They need to come ask if they can burn my house, steal my stand or pick my zing first. *** As to this incident... I think I'd like to wait from more evidence. Edited July 8, 2020 by Joe_Hoopsier 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Yeah, the property question needs to be answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Joe_Hoopsier said: Trespass in general, I don't get my hackles up. It's all about intent to me. Someone wanting to take a nice little stroll in the woods, enjoying nature, no problem. Burn a house, steal deer stands, hunt Genzing... Nope. They need to come ask if they can burn my house, steal my stand or pick my zing first. *** As to this incident... I think I'd like to wait from more evidence. Woukd it be.ok to eat your porage, try out your favorite chair and maybe take a nap in your bed? Edited July 8, 2020 by Billingsley99 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Muddy River said: What has been underreported is if this event took place on private property. I have rather strong feelings about trespassers as one burned down the house (unoccupied at the time) on our family farm. I'm curious as to how some of you feel about trespassing, or whether it even matters in this incident. To me did he know or should he have known he was trespassing? Were there signs up and he blatantly ignored them? Edited July 8, 2020 by dbmhoosier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 Just now, dbmhoosier said: To me did he know or should he have known he was trespassing? Were there sings up and he blatantly ignored them? Did they cross a fence? etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Billingsley99 said: Woukd it be.ok to eat your porage, try your out your favorite chair and maybe take a nap in your bed? Obviously you are talking about the one's that picked out of my other "Gensing" patch. I'd let them nap quietly while I rummaged through their VW Micro bus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 7 hours ago, FKIM01 said: That's fair. I was coming here to say that we've heard one side of the story thus far. I'm not surprised there are racist idiots in Indiana, but after Jussie Smollett, I'm content to let this story play out completely before assuming guilt or innocence. Duke LaCrosse team says hello..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted July 8, 2020 Report Share Posted July 8, 2020 48 minutes ago, dbmhoosier said: To me did he know or should he have known he was trespassing? Were there signs up and he blatantly ignored them? Don't know...... He wanted to see the mysterious lunar eclipse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Not much new in here- https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2020-07-08/indiana-governor-defends-officer-response-to-assault-report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Reacher said: Not much new in here- https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2020-07-08/indiana-governor-defends-officer-response-to-assault-report Liell said she and Booker are calling on Holcomb to consider taking guns away from DNR officers and “significantly” limiting their jurisdiction. Um, what? Most counties in Indiana only have 2 conservation officers per county often working alone and they have to deal with armed people regularly during hunting seasons. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 I'm not a lawyer, but I know we have a few here...or maybe someone in or familiar with law enforcement knows... But watching that video, and I assume it was viewed by the officers once they arrived, could the DNR officiers have made an arrest? One that would stick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-BONE Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Whatever charges may be filed will depend greatly on whether many reported details not on the video can be corroborated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, D-BONE said: Whatever charges may be filed will depend greatly on whether many reported details not on the video can be corroborated. That's gonna be a he said, she said deal more than likely... I posed my question above because Mr Booker's attorney said DNR should have arrested somebody on the spot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-BONE Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, IUFLA said: That's gonna be a he said, she said deal more than likely... I posed my question above because Mr Booker's attorney said DNR should have arrested somebody on the spot... I agree. It will be complicated, at best, if the only reliable evidence is the video. That does show an apparent assault/battery. But, even then, we don't see the preamble to all the commotion. wasn't responding to your post specifically because I don't have the background to provide a good answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFaithful Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 If a crime was committed, in the eyes of the law, it doesn't really matter a ton what the provocation was. Other lawyers can chime in, but I'm struggling to think of the words or phrases that would make what appeared in the video (if deemed a crime) permissible. If there were actions that provoked, perhaps that's a different story, but still - the point pretty much holds true. A crime is a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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