Milosh68 Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 Edit: Hoping this is not what it looks like. Going to delete, out of caution, until better understood. -blue 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 hour ago, mrflynn03 said: CDC Link pdf report in link. Table 1 from report. Thank you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 6 hours ago, tdhoosier said: I guess I'm not sure what many on here are trying to insinuate. Does anybody think we need to stop wearing masks, open up all bars, and start attending conventions in order to reach herd immunity? Just get a bunch of people sick before a vaccine is available and rip off the band aid? Nobody is locked down right now. What policies do you think should be reversed? I know you aren't advocating we going out in public and start licking each other's face in order to achieve herd immunity. What's your middle ground? I was not insinuating anything. I was sharing what I thought was positive news amongst all the bad stuff. Whether we agree or disagree with how Sweden got to where they are today, you have to be encouraged by their numbers the last couple of weeks. No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 This guy is going to get beat up Guy builds a gun to shoot masks on people's faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 3 hours ago, Milosh68 said: Deleted, sorry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Joe_Hoopsier said: Is this a horrific meme that Christian parents are killing their kids ? Or am I not understanding something? I think it's in reference to the song video killed the radio star but I'm not getting it either. Help us out @Milosh68 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, Joe_Hoopsier said: Is this a horrific meme that Christian parents are killing their kids ? Or am I not understanding something? The average age of a covid death is 78.. so obviously that can't be too true. Hmmmnm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 I took it as a simple message that Jesus/God will help guide us through the crisis. I don't think there was anything beyond that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: I think it's in reference to the song video killed the radio star but I'm not getting it either. Help us out @Milosh68 That’s what I was picking up. Mom, little girl, Jesus , Covid.... the reference to the song. If @Hoosierhoopster isn’t all over this like a fat kid on a doughnut, and let’s this stand. This is just unacceptable. Hopefully there’s something I’m not seeing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: I took it as a simple message that Jesus/God will help guide us through the crisis. I don't think there was anything beyond that. Video killed the radio star..... it’s a song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Joe_Hoopsier said: Video killed the radio star..... it’s a song. Yeah. Did not pick up on that initially. I get what you guys are questioning now. Edited August 18, 2020 by 5fouls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Let’s see if this helps, which post is deleted first.. Edit: lol, yeah. Had to delete. -blue 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Ok, that post was questionable, at best. I have it cleaned up. Lets please move on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Ok, that post was questionable, at best. I have it cleaned up. Lets please move on. Thank you and to be clear, I really hate censorship, but I think that was so far beyond the pale of what you all have created here, that it only took (even me) about 2 seconds to have a WTF moment. Moving on now and thanks again. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted August 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Couple states have now reversed their bans on HCQ. Why was it banned in the first place? Individual states don't do this for other drugs as far as I know. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/08/17/mn_governor_quietly_reverses_course_on_hydroxychloroquine__143978.html "The politics of hydroxychloroquine are unlikely to cool before November’s presidential election. Yet, if Walz’s decision is any indication, at least some leaders are starting to recognize the ethical dilemma of using the long arm of government to stand between suffering patients and a drug that may have the potential to save them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Taiwan: 485 confirmed - 450 recovered - 7 deaths while being only 110 miles from China and 627 miles from Wuhan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku 8% of Covid deaths (12,065) are below the age of 54 years old 32% of Covid deaths (47, 712) are above 85 years old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierJax Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 56 minutes ago, Inequality said: Taiwan: 485 confirmed - 450 recovered - 7 deaths while being only 110 miles from China and 627 miles from Wuhan. This is what's going on in Wuhan,far cry from how it is here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 One of the most concerning parts of all this is just how unreliable the reporting of cases has been. Its all over the map, in both directions. We have to learn some lessons from this. An uninformed population is partly to blame for the division and lack of trust/belief. https://apnews.com/c15b742f95a73ba2a45f7e7bf7d7255d 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted August 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 Studies show countries with older populations, more obese people, poorer people, and fewer nurses did not fare as well. None of that seems surprising. Smokers seem to be less effected. Lockdowns only effective in keeping hospitals from being overwhelmed. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8553929/Lockdowns-DONT-work-study-claims.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Reacher said: .....Smokers seem to be less effected.... Back off, covid! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 47 minutes ago, Reacher said: Studies show countries with older populations, more obese people, poorer people, and fewer nurses did not fare as well. None of that seems surprising. Smokers seem to be less effected. Lockdowns only effective in keeping hospitals from being overwhelmed. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8553929/Lockdowns-DONT-work-study-claims.html so... shutting down a football season will do what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdhoosier Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 16 hours ago, Reacher said: Did you read the article? Do you disagree with anything presented there? I don't think anybody is trying to insinuate anything. I try and present information. Some may be useful and some might prove wrong over time. The article mentions people in Sweden wearing masks and social distancing. While people may not be locked down, many schools, churches, and businesses are. Why not open the schools since young kids appear fairly resistant and it has not posed a problem in other countries? Let the young, healthy, active people spread it as they are not the prime age to burden the hospitals. Protect the elderly and those with health issues. To me that is common sense and the opposite of what was done in NY where they locked down the healthy and introduced the virus to the elderly. Personally, I also thinks sports can and should resume. They are playing now and, yes, there have been issues, but there are ways to minimize the risks- which appears small for that population. I disagree with this cluster of sentences: Quote Cases are very low. For all practical purposes, the covid-19 epidemic is over in Sweden. (really? that's a bold claim) Almost certainly herd immunity has been achieved in Sweden irrespective (definition: not taking into account) of any antibody test results (translation: let's just ignore that minor inconvenience). Testing is usually only for IgG antibody and the herd can become immune via IgA antibody or cellular mechanisms that are not detected by the usual testing (Yet, no definitive IgA data is available). Whether covid-19 will reappear this next fall or winter remains to be seen. (Translation: I could be completely wrong if a second wave hits) That's a lot of assumptions. He's also finding specific data that fits his conclusion. And most blatant is he's comparing Sweden, a non-dense country (57.5 people per square mile) with a huge amount of single person households to NYC, one of the biggest and most dense cities (27,000 people per square mile) in the world! Why doesn't he compare Sweden to a state with a more similar population per square mile that locked down, like Iowa???? Why is he comparing an apple to an elephant to make his point? Quote The data suggest that lockdowns have not prevented any deaths from covid-19. Maybe I have comprehension issues, but I don't see how the data suggest that at all. Is he living in reality? The whole reason NYC spiked is because they were blindsided by the virus while people were still freely moving around.....it snuck up on them before they had ANY policies in place and before they knew how to deal with it. Think back to Early April and what NYC did not know. Did Masks work, and if they did could they even find them? How long did the virus live on surfaces? Was it more risky to be outside or inside. How was this treated? How to keep the elderly safe? What demographics were the most susceptible? With so little known about a new airborne virus, what other choice did NYC have other than to lockdown in that particular moment? The author is going to use the data from that panicked environment, in an insanely dense area, compare it to Sweden, and come up with that conclusion?! That is so skewed. Sorry, I just tire of random articles on the internet claiming to have the answer based on cherry picked data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, HoosierJax said: This is what's going on in Wuhan,far cry from how it is here I’d say that’s not a real far cry from what is going on here..... Edited August 18, 2020 by IU878176 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted August 18, 2020 Report Share Posted August 18, 2020 SIAP U.S. School District Cancels Classes After Teacher ‘Sick Out’ Over Virus Fears - The New York Times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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