mrflynn03 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 I think it would be fun if we all were issued 6ft dowel rods that we carry around like samurai swords. So if you feel like someone is too close you can poke them with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 I would be hesitant to by any fresh produce you cant thoroughly wash. Seems to be an epidemic of people coughing and sneezing on produce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: I think it would be fun if we all were issued 6ft dowel rods that we carry around like samurai swords. So if you feel like someone is too close you can poke them with it. Or... You could duct tape some tent poles like this guy did 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 7, 2020 Report Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, mrflynn03 said: I think it would be fun if we all were issued 6ft dowel rods that we carry around like samurai swords. So if you feel like someone is too close you can poke them with it. People tended to avoid me even before all this virus thing. At least now I can point to the virus as an excuse. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted April 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 More people died of suicide in TN this week than COVID-19. NY selling it's ventilators. Death estimate dropped from 2 million to 200,00 to 85,000 to 45,000? I think the lockdowns will start be eased shortly. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Evansville reported it's first covid-19 fatality yesterday. A 74 year old man that had numerous health issues, still 1 too many. A nursing home in Newburgh is reporting 9 cases of covid...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 47 minutes ago, Reacher said: More people died of suicide in TN this week than COVID-19. NY selling it's ventilators. Death estimate dropped from 2 million to 200,00 to 85,000 to 45,000? I think the lockdowns will start be eased shortly. And the you have this. https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/04/07/feds-classify-all-coronavirus-patient-deaths-as-covid-19-deaths/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Virus deaths hit 179 in Colorado. Pales in comparison to New York. However the President is sending 100 ventilators to Colorado today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lostin76 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 Admissions are plateauing here in NYC for our institution - we have three hospitals. We are holding steady around 1,500 positive patients admitted, but about 23% of those are intubated and on ventilators. That's a lot. So many medical staffers from other areas have been pulled to ICUs and makeshift units. It's basically all hands on deck right now, but we are hopeful that the admissions stay flat for a bit. Deaths are still increasing however - up to 779 in NY state reported today. It seems like the shelter in place is working, so hopefully people won't see encouraging numbers and then change their behavior. I think we will see the hotspot attention shifting away from NYC, and the South will really start to peak in the next couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted April 8, 2020 Report Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) Thought this was an interesting take. I get the idea behind the lockdown is to not overwhelm the healthcare system. But what if prolonging the time it takes to reach herd immunity we end up having more deaths overall. And not just from covid, but also deaths related to the economic shutdown. I guess it's all just a guessing game. https://www.thecollegefix.com/epidemiologist-coronavirus-could-be-exterminated-if-lockdowns-were-lifted/?fbclid=IwAR2wNFw0jxxlwbcdcGMdnikDb_qO-SdOUo60U754FF6ZIiYLa-TnsHLSvRA Edited April 8, 2020 by mrflynn03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 This weeks jobs report has 10% of the workforce unemployed. That number is probably a lot higher due to self-employed, sole - proprietors, and gig workers likely not filing claims. https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Study-investigates-if-COVID-19-came-to-Calif-in-15187085.php Stanford University has started and antibody study. Couple points from the article that stick out. As of Tuesday there were 374 covid deaths out of 40 million people. California doctors reported an early flu season last fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosier_exotics Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 23 hours ago, mrflynn03 said: Thought this was an interesting take. I get the idea behind the lockdown is to not overwhelm the healthcare system. But what if prolonging the time it takes to reach herd immunity we end up having more deaths overall. And not just from covid, but also deaths related to the economic shutdown. I guess it's all just a guessing game. https://www.thecollegefix.com/epidemiologist-coronavirus-could-be-exterminated-if-lockdowns-were-lifted/?fbclid=IwAR2wNFw0jxxlwbcdcGMdnikDb_qO-SdOUo60U754FF6ZIiYLa-TnsHLSvRA I think herd immunity is a pipe dream. People are starting to be infected a second time around. A vaccine, medication, or cure is the only way we are going to resume back to any normalcy in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 We don't live in a high rise. Just a regular neighborhood. So.....at 8 o'clock. Neighbors around us and other neighborhoods have take it upon themselves to step outside. To yell, set off fireworks, and make as much noise as possible for five minutes as a tribute to first responders and medical people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 6.6 million people, all self-inflicted, are out of work. Meanwhile 14,800 corona deaths nationwide.... Makes ya wanna go hmmm..... Edited April 9, 2020 by Proud2BAHoosier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: 16.6 million people, all self-inflicted, are out of work. Meanwhile 14,800 corona deaths nationwide.... Makes ya wanna go hmmm..... Some states. It does not matter the cause of death. Say.... you die from a heart attack. With no virus. They still group you in with those that died of the virus. Take the Corona death stats with a grain of salt. Edited April 9, 2020 by milehiiu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, milehiiu said: Some states. It does not matter the cause of death. Say.... you die from a heart attack. With no virus. They still group you in with those that died of the virus. Take the Corona death stats with a grain of salt. Where did you get that information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted April 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, rogue3542 said: Where did you get that information? MN Senator Dr Scott Jensen actually provided the HHS document linked in this story- https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-mn-senator-dr-reveals-hhs-document-coaching-overcount-covid-19-cases-copy-document-video/ And, according to Senator Jensen, hospitals get paid more for listing patients as COVID-19 and even more if they get put on a ventilator. I hope more of this gets brought up. Edited April 9, 2020 by Reacher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Reacher said: MN Senator Dr Scott Jensen actually provided the HHS document linked in this story- https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-mn-senator-dr-reveals-hhs-document-coaching-overcount-covid-19-cases-copy-document-video/ And, according to Senator Jensen, hospitals get paid more for listing patients as COVID-19 and even more if they get put on a ventilator. I hope more of this gets brought up. Yes. In answer to rogue... it has been all over the news in recent days. Thanks Reacher for that link. Again.... take the virus death count with a huge grain of salt. Paraphrasing here. From your link Reacher. The Minnesota Doctor received instructions to fill out a death certificate that the patient died of the virus, whether the patient died of the virus or not. It's happening in more states than Minnesota. Edited April 9, 2020 by milehiiu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, Reacher said: MN Senator Dr Scott Jensen actually provided the HHS document linked in this story- https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/04/huge-mn-senator-dr-reveals-hhs-document-coaching-overcount-covid-19-cases-copy-document-video/ And, according to Senator Jensen, hospitals get paid more for listing patients as COVID-19 and even more if they get put on a ventilator. I hope more of this gets brought up. There's pretty much nothing I can say without people bringing out the pitchforks on me here. So, I'll just post an article from a news source that's actually reputable. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/08/tucker-carlsons-brit-humes-faulty-theories-about-coronavirus-deaths-being-exaggerated/?utm_source=reddit.com 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 Thought this was nice of the local folks to do. https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/nyc-to-get-50000-coronavirus-test-kits-from-indiana-city/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Thought this was nice of the local folks to do. https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/nyc-to-get-50000-coronavirus-test-kits-from-indiana-city/ Neat. Going beyond Hoosier Hospitality. Hoosiers care. Thanks for the link. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, rogue3542 said: There's pretty much nothing I can say without people bringing out the pitchforks on me here. So, I'll just post an article from a news source that's actually reputable. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/08/tucker-carlsons-brit-humes-faulty-theories-about-coronavirus-deaths-being-exaggerated/?utm_source=reddit.com You do know $100 billion of the stimulus money was allocated for covid related hospital costs? The AHA has already requested $23 billion be distributed, $25,000 per bed, in preparation. That leaves $77 billion on that table. The incentive is definitely there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted April 9, 2020 Report Share Posted April 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: You do know $100 billion of the stimulus money was allocated for covid related hospital costs? The AHA has already requested $23 billion be distributed, $25,000 per bed, in preparation. That leaves $77 billion on that table. The incentive is definitely there. There's no problem being skeptical of where that money goes and how it's allocated (especially since all the oversight was just removed), but it's literally dangerous (even deadly) to believe in and spread this kind of propaganda right now, because that's exactly what it is, and there's zero evidence of it's veracity. I seriously doubt cities and hospitals are going to willfully suffer the ignominy of being the next New York to make a few thousand (or even million) dollars extra by misrepresenting covid 19 deaths. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted April 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 4 hours ago, rogue3542 said: There's pretty much nothing I can say without people bringing out the pitchforks on me here. So, I'll just post an article from a news source that's actually reputable. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/04/08/tucker-carlsons-brit-humes-faulty-theories-about-coronavirus-deaths-being-exaggerated/?utm_source=reddit.com I don't know how much more reputable you can get than a US senator providing and linking a HHS document in the article. The HHS document speaks for itself. Did you read it? Think it's fake? I linked that article because it included the source document. There are many other stories out there saying the same thing from all sorts of sites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted April 10, 2020 Report Share Posted April 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Reacher said: I don't know how much more reputable you can get than a US senator providing and linking a HHS document in the article. The HHS document speaks for itself. Did you read it? Think it's fake? I linked that article because it included the source document. There are many other stories out there saying the same thing from all sorts of sites. Did you read the directive? It's clearly advising that if a patient dies before being able to be tested, displays symptoms of the virus, and someone with whom he/she had close contact with tests positive, then it's appropriate to ascribe death to the virus. I think that's a pretty appropriate scenario. Both the article and the senator, who both have clear agendas, grossly misrepresent the situation. Furthermore, the tagline of that website is "We report the truth - and leave the Russia collusion fairy tale to the Conspiracy media." It's not even in the same zip code as what I would deem reputable. Back when I was a teacher, I wouldn't have even allowed it as a source on a research paper. It's crystal clear that you can't trust the information coming from that site. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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