btownqb Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, 5fouls said: Why call it a shoulder injury if it's a benching? Because he has a shoulder injury. And he is getting benched. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Grade 2 shoulder separation. Ryan isn't practicing this week and won't be active on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Get the injury and not being able to play this coming week. The permanent benching comes off to me like something directed by higher than Reich. Just last week, Ryan was being lauded for such a stellar game. One week later, benched? This doesn't pass the smell test with me, and seems like something that an irrational owner would dictate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Get the injury and not being able to play this coming week. The permanent benching comes off to me like something directed by higher than Reich. Just last week, Ryan was being lauded for such a stellar game. One week later, benched? This doesn't pass the smell test with me, and seems like something that an irrational owner would dictate. I personally just think Matt Ryan sucks and they are starting Sam Ehlinger because he can at least make plays with his legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Just now, btownqb said: I personally just think Matt Ryan sucks and they are starting Sam Ehlinger because he can at least make plays with his legs. I don't know whether to laugh or cry. But yep, that sums it up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, 5fouls said: What leads you to believe it is permanent versus a week by week thing until shoulder heals? What they are reporting on the radio and said that came from Reich 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, btownqb said: I personally just think Matt Ryan sucks and they are starting Sam Ehlinger because he can at least make plays with his legs. I know this is the wrong thread for this, but I would like to see Dexter Williams come in and make some plays with is feet too.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 17 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Get the injury and not being able to play this coming week. The permanent benching comes off to me like something directed by higher than Reich. Just last week, Ryan was being lauded for such a stellar game. One week later, benched? This doesn't pass the smell test with me, and seems like something that an irrational owner would dictate. Jim Irsay is a rational owner and had went out of his way to not be like his father. His dad went to the locker room at halftime to fire a coach but Jim talked him out of it. To me he has been more than patient with both Reich and Ballard. Over the last 4 years they spent over 100 million on the QB position and still don't have the answer at that position. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Sounds like Matt Ryan just became a more expensive Joe Flacco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) To me this move probably has been looked at the last couple of weeks. I think that is why you saw Elingher promoted to 2nd string last week. Edited October 24, 2022 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 I wonder how the team feels about this move...... This is a big shake up and one that most likely needed to be done earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 The Panthers are probably willing to discuss a trade for Baker Mayfield. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) Stable QB situations in NFL NFC East: Hurts, Dak NFC North: Cousins NFC South: None NFC West: Murray, Stafford (for now) AFC East: Allen, M. Jones, Tua (pending health) AFC North: Jackson, Burrow AFC South: Lawrence AFC West: Mahomes, Herbert, Carr That's only 14 out of 32 teams, and a couple of those selections were generous. Colts need to hit a HR in the draft. The odds of finding the right guy via trade or free agency is slim. Of the 14 listed, I believe Cousins and Stafford are the only two not playing for the team that originally drafted them. Edited October 24, 2022 by 5fouls 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jv1972iu Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Stable QB situations in NFL NFC East: Hurts, Dak NFC North: Cousins NFC South: None NFC West: Murray, Stafford (for now) AFC East: Allen, M. Jones, Tua (pending health) AFC North: Jackson, Burrow AFC South: Lawrence AFC West: Mahomes, Herbert, Carr That's only 14 out of 32 teams, and a couple of those selections were generous. Colts need to hit a HR in the draft. The odds of finding the right guy via trade or free agency is slim. Of the 14 listed, I believe Cousins and Stafford are the only two not playing for the team that originally drafted them. Trade for Zappe. Edited October 24, 2022 by jv1972iu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Maybe Elingher will be the next Tom Brady, who was a 6th round pick. He is also taking over for an injured veteran in their second year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 The Titans drafted Malik Willis in the 3rd round. They were honest to themselves that Tannehill was not the ultimate answer in a 3-5 year plan. The Colts broke camp with Matt Ryan and Nick Foles. Seems to me that it could have been justified to pick a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said: Get the injury and not being able to play this coming week. The permanent benching comes off to me like something directed by higher than Reich. Just last week, Ryan was being lauded for such a stellar game. One week later, benched? This doesn't pass the smell test with me, and seems like something that an irrational owner would dictate. I don't know about irrational owner, but I think it may be an owner that has different goals than the GM and head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, 5fouls said: The Titans drafted Malik Willis in the 3rd round. They were honest to themselves that Tannehill was not the ultimate answer in a 3-5 year plan. The Colts broke camp with Matt Ryan and Nick Foles. Seems to me that it could have been justified to pick a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. But there has to be someone you like to do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, 5fouls said: The Titans drafted Malik Willis in the 3rd round. They were honest to themselves that Tannehill was not the ultimate answer in a 3-5 year plan. The Colts broke camp with Matt Ryan and Nick Foles. Seems to me that it could have been justified to pick a QB in the 2nd or 3rd round. They weren't interested in any of them this draft. We also absolutely drafted other areas of need with the picks in those rounds, along with the 4th. It's also possible we liked Sam more than those we could have drafted in those rounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 57 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Stable QB situations in NFL NFC East: Hurts, Dak NFC North: Cousins NFC South: None NFC West: Murray, Stafford (for now) AFC East: Allen, M. Jones, Tua (pending health) AFC North: Jackson, Burrow AFC South: Lawrence AFC West: Mahomes, Herbert, Carr That's only 14 out of 32 teams, and a couple of those selections were generous. Colts need to hit a HR in the draft. The odds of finding the right guy via trade or free agency is slim. Of the 14 listed, I believe Cousins and Stafford are the only two not playing for the team that originally drafted them. What? No Watson? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said: Get the injury and not being able to play this coming week. The permanent benching comes off to me like something directed by higher than Reich. Just last week, Ryan was being lauded for such a stellar game. One week later, benched? This doesn't pass the smell test with me, and seems like something that an irrational owner would dictate. Just my two cents. Irsay has gone out of his way to accommodate the Colts QB position since Luck quit. I think he's a guy who says hey man I've only got a few more seasons to go. I need to fix this. For the record I thought Matt Ryan would be a perfect fit. Cerebral and has 60,000 yards under his belt. Starting to think Frank Reich is the issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 I imagine that Fox is not real happy having the Commanders vs Colts in the 4:15 slot. It should be Wentz coming back going against Ryan. Also had the story of Irsay commenting on Daniel Snyder ouster from the NFL. Now you have two backup QB's with both teams being pretty bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-BONE Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Just my two cents. Irsay has gone out of his way to accommodate the Colts QB position since Luck quit. I think he's a guy who says hey man I've only got a few more seasons to go. I need to fix this. For the record I thought Matt Ryan would be a perfect fit. Cerebral and has 60,000 yards under his belt. Starting to think Frank Reich is the issue. I wish I could agree with this. Well, I can agree that Reich has significant culpability in all this underachieving (IMO). But Ryan - despite his excellent career - was clearly diminished I thought. Much more observably so that the level Rivers had lost off his prime, for example. I'm surprised it didn't occur to Irsay/Ballard/Reich that the fact that he is a statue at this stage wouldn't bode well for his fit here. I mean, when was the last time this o-line actually pass protected well? Rivers, despite the record and playoff appearance, was constantly under duress, taking shots and sacks way too often. And I'm surprised they felt confident in this o-line personnel coming into this year to improve on pass protection regardless of who was behind center. All seems to be adding up to a lot of incompetence/negligence on the part of all three of those guys. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 Most popular player in alot of cities, the backup QB....until he plays. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 24, 2022 Report Share Posted October 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, D-BONE said: I wish I could agree with this. Well, I can agree that Reich has significant culpability in all this underachieving (IMO). But Ryan - despite his excellent career - was clearly diminished I thought. Much more observably so that the level Rivers had lost off his prime, for example. I'm surprised it didn't occur to Irsay/Ballard/Reich that the fact that he is a statue at this stage wouldn't bode well for his fit here. I mean, when was the last time this o-line actually pass protected well? Rivers, despite the record and playoff appearance, was constantly under duress, taking shots and sacks way too often. And I'm surprised they felt confident in this o-line personnel coming into this year to improve on pass protection regardless of who was behind center. All seems to be adding up to a lot of incompetence/negligence on the part of all three of those guys. Agree with most. Owner hires guys to deliver. Guys don't deliver....and when I say guys I mean the Oline as well. Louis Riddick who I love said earlier today the Colts are the most disappointing team of league. Blasted OLine, Taylor's touches,etc.... Only so much room in the head though. I'm a Bears fan. I've got my own issues going on 25 years minus 3 seasons. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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