Billingsley99 Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 11 hours ago, rico said: Here you go Bears fans... https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2021-nfl-mock-draft-bears-take-surprising-first-round-qb-mac-jones-falls-to-patriots-vikings-also-land-qb/ Going out on a limb here.but Mills we be as good or better than any of the other QB'S in this draft. Kid will be the real dael. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Going out on a limb here.but Mills we be as good or better than any of the other QB'S in this draft. Kid will be the real dael. Could be the steal of the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, rico said: Could be the steal of the draft? I think so or just another Chicago flop. Did you know that the Bears all time leading receiver only has a little over 5000 yards. I did not realize just how futile the passing game truly has been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I think so or just another Chicago flop. Did you know that the Bears all time leading receiver only has a little over 5000 yards. I did not realize just how futile the passing game truly has been I did not know that. But in their defense(or not) they have never had a QB that was a gunslinger. It is interesting that the Cardinals have 5 guys with over 7,000 yards though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 minute ago, rico said: I did not know that. But in their defense(or not) they have never had a QB that was a gunslinger. It is interesting that the Cardinals have 5 guys with over 7,000 yards though. I believe Ditka and Sweetness are top 5 in career receiving yards for the Bears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I believe Ditka and Sweetness are top 5 in career receiving yards for the Bears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I believe Ditka and Sweetness are top 5 in career receiving yards for the Bears. All time leaders for the Bears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 15 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I believe Ditka and Sweetness are top 5 in career receiving yards for the Bears. Yes, they are. 1. Johnny Morris-5,059 2. Harlan Hill-4,616 3. Alshon Jeffery-4,549 4. Walter Payton-4,538 5. Mike Ditka-4,503 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, rico said: I did not know that. But in their defense(or not) they have never had a QB that was a gunslinger. It is interesting that the Cardinals have 5 guys with over 7,000 yards though. I know he's one of the best of all time, but Larry Fitzgerald alone has over 3,000 yards more than the top 3 Bears receivers combined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Leathernecks said: I know he's one of the best of all time, but Larry Fitzgerald alone has over 3,000 yards more than the top 3 Bears receivers combined. True...but it is also true that the Bears passing game has been historically the worst in the NFL. Why is that? <insert image of beating a dead horse> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 6 hours ago, rico said: Yes, they are. 1. Johnny Morris-5,059 2. Harlan Hill-4,616 3. Alshon Jeffery-4,549 4. Walter Payton-4,538 5. Mike Ditka-4,503 Johnny Morris would be just of Dallas Clark for 9th in Colts history 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Leathernecks said: All time leaders for the Bears. I've felt how bad it was.....but when Alshon Jeffery is #3 all time that says all you need to know. Good Lord that's bad. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 21 hours ago, Seeking6 said: I've felt how bad it was.....but when Alshon Jeffery is #3 all time that says all you need to know. Good Lord that's bad. Indeed. To think he could make their ring of honor or whatever...as one of the greatest WR of all time....crazy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 23 hours ago, Seeking6 said: I've felt how bad it was.....but when Alshon Jeffery is #3 all time that says all you need to know. Good Lord that's bad. Is there talk about the Bears to try to move into the top 8 or so picks to land a QB? It would take a haul, but if you get the right guy, it is worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 On 3/27/2021 at 2:41 PM, Leathernecks said: I'm convinced Pace would finish in the bottom half of a free fantasy football league. No doubt. He’s right there with Ryan Grigson and Polian’s kid as the worst GM’s of recent years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: Is there talk about the Bears to try to move into the top 8 or so picks to land a QB? It would take a haul, but if you get the right guy, it is worth it. I've been in the Mac Jones camp since earlier this spring. Was begging for Bears to take him at 20th. Guess the rest of the NFL caught up because I don't see him lasting. I see first 6 out of 11 should address QB situation. If our Bears want to make a move I think they would have to get up to pick 5-7 range to get the QB they want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I've been in the Mac Jones camp since earlier this spring. Was begging for Bears to take him at 20th. Guess the rest of the NFL caught up because I don't see him lasting. I see first 6 out of 11 should address QB situation. If our Bears want to make a move I think they would have to get up to pick 5-7 range to get the QB they want. I agree. Miami at 6 could be in play. But it would take a haul for a team to drop all the way down to 20 when they could get a top player like Chase or Pitts. It’s quite a drop down to only get the 20th guy. Mac Jones gives me a Chad Pennington vibe and that is a compliment. Chad was an MVP candidate. Not a huge arm but made smart plays. As BB says, do your job and don’t self destruct and you will win. Mac is the kind of guy who frustrates the D because he’s not imposing. You think you could rattle him or get him to throw picks. But he doesn’t. Having said that, if he busts out I won’t be shocked though. It’s a tough assessment when you have elite receivers, running back and an offensive line with first and second round picks. So that’s a tough comp. What happens if the pocket breaks down on him a lot and he lacks open receivers. There are unknowns in these respects. Edited April 23, 2021 by BobSaccamanno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 On average 2 if these 5 QB's drafted in the first round will end up a bust. You just hope you draft the correct QB and not the wrong one 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted April 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 10 hours ago, IU Scott said: On average 2 if these 5 QB's drafted in the first round will end up a bust. You just hope you draft the correct QB and not the wrong one I wonder how much certain schools play into being a bust? I was listening the other day and the TH's(talking heads) were discussing Ian Book of ND. Basically Kelley has not produced a bona fide NFL QB in his time in South Bend. Book, they said, is ranked 9th in this class. The gist of the discussion was that NFL teams are leary of QB's that come out of blue blood schools. I don't know if I believe that or not but they made some compelling arguments. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 On 4/23/2021 at 7:38 AM, rico said: I wonder how much certain schools play into being a bust? I was listening the other day and the TH's(talking heads) were discussing Ian Book of ND. Basically Kelley has not produced a bona fide NFL QB in his time in South Bend. Book, they said, is ranked 9th in this class. The gist of the discussion was that NFL teams are leary of QB's that come out of blue blood schools. I don't know if I believe that or not but they made some compelling arguments. If Book is 9th in this class it's a damn poor class depth wise. Small quarterback with poor arm....biggest strength was his mobility but that would get him killed in the NFL. I think issue with blue blood qb is that they typically have tons of time in the pocket to throw and that they matchup outside is overwhelming in their favor. I mean who couldn't throw to Alabama's WR core? They are freaking 2-3 yards open on every play. NFL qbs have to throw their player open and fit it in tight windows. I think sometimes schools matter...coaching matters...but overall the best just jump out at you with their gifts and skills...especially if they can make NFL level throws and are good decision makers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 28, 2021 Report Share Posted April 28, 2021 Bridgewater traded to Denver for picks. Broncos not sold on Locke and Fangio trying to save his job. Rumor has it that Patriots may trade up to take a quarterback with Carolina’s 8th pick. Ruhle must be comfortable with Darnold for the immediate future it seems 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 29, 2021 Report Share Posted April 29, 2021 18 hours ago, dgambill said: If Book is 9th in this class it's a damn poor class depth wise. Small quarterback with poor arm....biggest strength was his mobility but that would get him killed in the NFL. I think issue with blue blood qb is that they typically have tons of time in the pocket to throw and that they matchup outside is overwhelming in their favor. I mean who couldn't throw to Alabama's WR core? They are freaking 2-3 yards open on every play. NFL qbs have to throw their player open and fit it in tight windows. I think sometimes schools matter...coaching matters...but overall the best just jump out at you with their gifts and skills...especially if they can make NFL level throws and are good decision makers. I dont think any class that starts with the 3 guys at the top can be considered poor depth wise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted April 29, 2021 Report Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, btownqb said: I dont think any class that starts with the 3 guys at the top can be considered poor depth wise. Honest question, are the top 3 that great? Or is it the perception that to succeed you have to have a great QB makes them a higher priority? I really an not sure. I just know that stats say 3 of those top 5 will not work out. I am still going out on my limb all by myself and say that Mills from Stanford will be better than all but Lawrence, I think Fields is right there with those 2. Lance, Wilson and Jones will be the flops IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 29, 2021 Report Share Posted April 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Honest question, are the top 3 that great? Or is it the perception that to succeed you have to have a great QB makes them a higher priority? I really an not sure. I just know that stats say 3 of those top 5 will not work out. I am still going out on my limb all by myself and say that Mills from Stanford will be better than all but Lawrence, I think Fields is right there with those 2. Lance, Wilson and Jones will be the flops IMO I think Fields and Lawrence are fantastic and I think much the same about Wilson, but... I think fit and situation for a young QB is probably the most important aspect of their career. Or at least the most underrated part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted April 29, 2021 Report Share Posted April 29, 2021 This quarterback class is going to be fun to look back on in 5 and 10 years and re-rank them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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