IU Scott Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: Hearing Panthers are making a push for Watson Cowboys have entered the chat about Stafford I read where the Jets or dolphins has the best chance with Watson. I believe there is no way that the Texans will trade Watson to a division team. Also the colts first round pick is in the 20's this year and with a great QB will be even lower in the future. If I were the Texans I am eying teams that are bad who have high draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1215 Posted January 28, 2021 Report Share Posted January 28, 2021 (edited) As a Washington fan, with our defense being pretty solid I would trade the 19th pick this year and a second next year for stafford. Bring in Golladay or Jones who are FA from Detroit at WR and draft for need with remaining picks. You have a decent team then. Pipe dream for me tho lol. Our new Gm Mayhew drafted stafford in 2007 with Detroit so ya never know. Edited January 28, 2021 by Hoosierfan1215 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Vegas is heavily shifting to the 49ers... currently way ahead of Colts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) But it could be an outlier too, however, Ballard likes to keep it secret too. On the Colts they are saying no one has heard anything from the Colts about Stafford. Edited January 29, 2021 by Hoosierfan1901 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 At this point, I don’t know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 I think Stafford likes the Colts, but the Lions will probably like the 49er’s offer and choose that, just speculating Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Darnold? Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: Vegas is heavily shifting to the 49ers... currently way ahead of Colts So how are the 49ners going to afford to have two QB's that is making that much money. Grailopo? Is making about 30 million a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: So how are the 49ners going to afford to have two QB's that is making that much money. Grailopo? Is making about 30 million a year It boggles my mind, I’m sure Stafford’s new contract will be way better what he has at the Lions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 29, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Another Deshaun break down: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/deshaun-watson-trade-request-here-are-5-teams-best-equipped-to-trade-for-the-texans-quarterback/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 14 hours ago, Seeking6 said: Here's the thing that if I was Ballard I'm thinking. 2 first round picks for Watson or more? Or do I secure Stafford for 1 1st round pick and maybe and 2nd/3rd in following year. Does Watson raise the bar that much in what I/Colts stand to lose in not having another 1st round pick? Colts used their first round pick this year for one of the best dline guys in the league. If I'm Ballard....secure Stafford, buy a wide receiver in free agency and draft OLine to replace Castonzo. I believe Watson is top 2 or 3 QB. get him and Colts become the top contender with Chiefs in AFC. Get him and Robinson and I think they become best team in football 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: I believe Watson is top 2 or 3 QB. get him and Colts become the top contender with Chiefs in AFC. Get him and Robinson and I think they become best team in football Agree with all of that too. My brain changes daily regarding Watson. For my Bears too. Colts don't have many holes to fill besides qb....where as Bears need help at so many positions it's hard to part ways with multiple 1st round picks. Tough call to make. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 9 hours ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: It boggles my mind, I’m sure Stafford’s new contract will be way better what he has at the Lions He is still under contract for another two years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 9 hours ago, IU Scott said: So how are the 49ners going to afford to have two QB's that is making that much money. Grailopo? Is making about 30 million a year If they bring in Stafford or even Watson, the 49ers will then trade Garrapalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, BGleas said: If they bring in Stafford or even Watson, the 49ers will then trade Garrapalo. What market would he have? I'm not thinking very much at all. I'm pretty sure they will release him, I don't think they pay much of a penalty if they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, BGleas said: If they bring in Stafford or even Watson, the 49ers will then trade Garrapalo. With him making over 30 million a year it would be hard to trade. Also if they release him there would be a huge cap hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 58 minutes ago, IU Scott said: With him making over 30 million a year it would be hard to trade. Also if they release him there would be a huge cap hit. Not true. And before you argue... https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/jimmy-garoppolo-dee-ford-two-nfls-worst-contracts-cap-expert-says Edited January 29, 2021 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUskim Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, btownqb said: Not true. And before you argue... https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/jimmy-garoppolo-dee-ford-two-nfls-worst-contracts-cap-expert-says And to go even deeper on that if they cut or trade him after June 1st his dead money on the cap is split between 2021 and 2022 and save them even more money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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btownqb Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: Yes. DO NOT BID LOW!!!!! I would rather keep those 4 picks and offer 2 1st round picks anyway. Is that really more valuable? Idk. Edited January 29, 2021 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: Kind of interesting they didn't throw in next year's 1st instead of their 2nd and 3rd. If they do get Stafford, it probably won't be that good of a pick. For the Colts, they have to give up at least a 1st round pick. Their 2nd and 3rd are worse than the 49ers, and I don't think it would make sense to throw 5 picks at them just to match the 49ers offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leathernecks Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 13 minutes ago, btownqb said: Yes. DO NOT BID LOW!!!!! From this trade value chart, the 49ers trade was 690 points in picks this year. If they get Stafford, it would surprise me if they pick in the mid 20s next year. They were decimated by injuries this year, but they would have a really solid team if they got Stafford. That gives them around 450-500 points for the 2nd and 3rd picks next year. Roughly 1140-1190 points for the total trade. The Colts 1st round pick this year is 800, and their 2nd round pick is 360 for 1160 points. Obviously trades aren't made just based on these point totals, but kind of interesting to see a rough estimate of the value. I'm thinking the Colts would probably need to give up two 1st round picks, or a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Leathernecks said: From this trade value chart, the 49ers trade was 690 points in picks this year. If they get Stafford, it would surprise me if they pick in the mid 20s next year. They were decimated by injuries this year, but they would have a really solid team if they got Stafford. That gives them around 450-500 points for the 2nd and 3rd picks next year. Roughly 1140-1190 points for the total trade. The Colts 1st round pick this year is 800, and their 2nd round pick is 360 for 1160 points. Obviously trades aren't made just based on these point totals, but kind of interesting to see a rough estimate of the value. I'm thinking the Colts would probably need to give up two 1st round picks, or a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. And I was told "no GM in their right mind would give up 2 1sts for Stafford" .... I would prefer the Colts to trade 2 1sts rather than 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. Ballard is money in the middle rounds. Give him more swings at bat. I believe two firsts for Stafford is more than reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) First this year and next... flip 2nd round picks this year. Moves us from 53rd overall to 39th overall and get a LT!!! Edited January 29, 2021 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 4 hours ago, btownqb said: What market would he have? I'm not thinking very much at all. I'm pretty sure they will release him, I don't think they pay much of a penalty if they do. Belichick will take him back in a second is my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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