btownqb Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, BobSaccamanno said: Yes, I think Redtails has a good shot. Ron Rivera grew up in a military household and I think they want to honor the military with the new name. Also, I have family in DC and they have a huge African American fan base. I think the Tuskegee Airmen had a big DC connection in their ranks too. It just makes perfect sense. I was making the point that they are probably double checking it from every angle to be sure that nobody whines about it from some angle they are unaware of since complaining about everything is like the plague now. 100% with you, agree completely 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 By the way, and I mean this as an honest question, but why do the Indians, Braves, or Chiefs need to change their names? Those aren’t insults, right? If they somehow are, I have never been aware if it. It reminds me of the bit in the Office: Michael: Is there anything less offensive besides “Mexican” that I can call you? Oscar: “Mexican” isn’t offensive Michael: Stares blankly. Isn’t that the same issue with Indians, etc? Isn’t “brave” a positive idea? If anything, wouldn’t taking those names off be a negative for Native Americans because they wouldn’t be acknowledged? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, BobSaccamanno said: By the way, and I mean this as an honest question, but why do the Indians, Braves, or Chiefs need to change their names? Those aren’t insults, right? If they somehow are, I have never been aware if it. Isn’t that the same issue with Indians, etc? Isn’t “brave” a positive idea? If anything, wouldn’t taking those names off be a negative for Native Americans because they wouldn’t be acknowledged? I always thought the name "Redskins" was the only one that was obviously a slur...I'm amazed that name made it this long... I know the "Indian" caricature of Chief Wahoo upset some people. 10-1 that name gets changed too... The Braves and Chiefs seem to have the backing of some Native Americans and I personally don't see those names as disparaging in our lexicon... But, I'm constantly surprised by The Church of the Perpetually Offended, so who knows... I do think as historical side-note that this is karma at its best...The Redskins were the last NFL team to integrate, and their owner at that time, George Preston Marshall, was know throughout the league as a bigot. Use of a stadium, ironically later renamed RFK Stadium, forced that issue too... Edited July 6, 2020 by IUFLA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 12 hours ago, btownqb said: I thought more, and once I read the quoted reply, and I thought to myself, "if I want to believe in the things that I do: that racism is on its last leg, that American History wouldn't be what it is without Black History, plus this team being located in our nations capital, and that I want to be a part of change and guidance in this country" then... name them the Washington Redtails TOMORROW. If I could like this statement 1000 X, I would... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 Nothing official yet but Mahomes is signing a 10 year extension with Chiefs. If I were his agent I'd put an escalator or % of cap space part to contract. No terms disclosed yet but thinking it has to be in the $450M range. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 45 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Nothing official yet but Mahomes is signing a 10 year extension with Chiefs. If I were his agent I'd put an escalator or % of cap space part to contract. No terms disclosed yet but thinking it has to be in the $450M range. I have an unhealthy fan/man crush on Mahomes. He is exactly what a face of a franchise should be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 6, 2020 Report Share Posted July 6, 2020 49 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I have an unhealthy fan/man crush on Mahomes. He is exactly what a face of a franchise should be. Checks every box for me so far. He's Peyton....and he got the first one out of the way early so pressure is off now. If he's there for the next decade I expect 3-4 more titles in KC world. What skill player wouldn't want to play there? Now the GM at KC has to figure out a way to keep everyone happy. Kelce and few others come for free agency soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Snyder sees the writing on the wall... https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/07/08/report-washington-to-avoid-native-american-imagery-in-new-name/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 14, 2020 Report Share Posted July 14, 2020 This is coming from Field Yates. I know we saw probably the greatest free agent QB class ever this past off season. Think about RB's next year. Lord the names. The free agent RB class of 2021 is currently loaded: Derrick Henry, Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara, Aaron Jones, Joe Mixon, Kenyan Drake, Todd Gurley, Leonard Fournette, James Conner, Matt Breida, Philip Lindsay, Kareem Hunt, James White, Tarik Cohen, Marlon Mack a 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-reportedly-closing-in-on-five-year-125-million-extension-with-myles-garrett/ Guess it doesn't matter what kind of thuggery a guy displays. No wonder the Browns are a mess. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milehiiu Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 SIAP NFL unveils Oakley face shield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 I saw that the Navajo Indians suggested a name. Something like code talkers. Speaking only for myself, I don’t think they need to use a Native American name. I say that with no slight intended toward any group. A clean break might just be nice. I love the Red Tails. I mean, I just love it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 8 hours ago, Steubenhoosier said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/browns-reportedly-closing-in-on-five-year-125-million-extension-with-myles-garrett/ Guess it doesn't matter what kind of thuggery a guy displays. No wonder the Browns are a mess. I bring this up because Browns are in same category. The last time Knicks signed a draft pick to an extension was 1999 with Charlie Ward. I think with Myles Garrett it makes the first player they drafted to sign an extension with them since Joe Haden which was 6-7 years ago. What a franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 23 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I bring this up because Browns are in same category. The last time Knicks signed a draft pick to an extension was 1999 with Charlie Ward. I think with Myles Garrett it makes the first player they drafted to sign an extension with them since Joe Haden which was 6-7 years ago. What a franchise. Surprised Joe Thomas was never extended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 The losing in Cleveland emanates from the owner on down. They have a losing culture. That’s the type of thing you can’t overcome. People underestimate the role of an owner. Bad owners have a knack for not ever winning,. A few years ago, the Browns has a ridiculous number of high picks and look where they are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Surprised Joe Thomas was never extended He was but that was 9 years ago....Haden was the first in last 6-7 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, BobSaccamanno said: The losing in Cleveland emanates from the owner on down. They have a losing culture. That’s the type of thing you can’t overcome. People underestimate the role of an owner. Bad owners have a knack for not ever winning,. A few years ago, the Browns has a ridiculous number of high picks and look where they are. The Browns are the perfect example of organizations being impatient and changing coaches every couple of years. This approach does not work and is not sustainable way of running your organization. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-BONE Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 On 7/6/2020 at 7:08 AM, IUFLA said: I always thought the name "Redskins" was the only one that was obviously a slur...I'm amazed that name made it this long... I know the "Indian" caricature of Chief Wahoo upset some people. 10-1 that name gets changed too... The Braves and Chiefs seem to have the backing of some Native Americans and I personally don't see those names as disparaging in our lexicon... But, I'm constantly surprised by The Church of the Perpetually Offended, so who knows... I do think as historical side-note that this is karma at its best...The Redskins were the last NFL team to integrate, and their owner at that time, George Preston Marshall, was know throughout the league as a bigot. Use of a stadium, ironically later renamed RFK Stadium, forced that issue too... I could understand Chief Wahoo being redesigned or replaced. In fact, I'd support it. Just find the drawing to cartoon-like and demeaning. And I know there was some substantial pressure from some Native American organizations and tribes a few years back that resulted in the team taking the logo off their uniforms. It's definitely true that Native Americans are not a monolith and the other team names you mention surely have varying levels of acceptability or lack thereof in those communities. Very cursory reading I've done on it shows there have been some polling showing differing results about where Native Americans stand on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 In more important NFL news...Aaron and Danica split up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, rico said: In more important NFL news...Aaron and Danica split up. Funny world we live in. Someone noticed she stopped following Aaron on Instagram and the story spread from there. In power couple terms....2+ years is a pretty good run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 minute ago, Seeking6 said: Funny world we live in. Someone noticed she stopped following Aaron on Instagram and the story spread from there. In power couple terms....2+ years is a pretty good run. He already linked to an actress introduced to him him ... guess who? If you said Danica you would be correct 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: Funny world we live in. Someone noticed she stopped following Aaron on Instagram and the story spread from there. In power couple terms....2+ years is a pretty good run. Danica in April... ""If you like a partner who is extremely attractive, super intelligent, very thoughtful, patient (lord knows I can be stubborn), loves to travel, is open minded, is into growing in this life, and can ball." Aaron musta lost that "Lovin Feelin." 😁 Edited July 18, 2020 by IUFLA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 NFL just released an email that was sent out. Rookies report 7/21, QB's and injured players 7/23, and all other players 7/28. So far seems full system go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted July 18, 2020 Report Share Posted July 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Seeking6 said: NFL just released an email that was sent out. Rookies report 7/21, QB's and injured players 7/23, and all other players 7/28. So far seems full system go. Not surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonialcrester Posted July 20, 2020 Report Share Posted July 20, 2020 One of my life ling friends has all the Redskins trademarks. Here he is on TMZ. https://amp.tmz.com/2020/07/19/washington-redskins-team-name-martin-mccaulay-trademark-nfl/?__twitter_impression=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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