Billingsley99 Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 Just now, BGleas said: Will never happen, but every GM in the league must be calling Portland today... http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5g7jh6m Terry Stotts to the Pacers??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 hours ago, NotIThatLives said: Devin Booker. Wow dude. 15-22 with 11 boards. All the complaining about iso clear out ball clearly haven't watched this clinic. The ball moves so fast you cant keep up with it, next thing you know its falling through the bottom of the net. If you enjoy watching LeBron lose, watch this. Suns are a very fun team to watch. Especially when they are playing uptempo. The movement without the ball that them and GS does and a few other teams I think will be the way of the future. It is just so hard to build a team top loaded with superstars and have enough support to win that way...not to mention landing and affording them. Takes almost a perfect storm...so if I had to model my team it would be with that movement in mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Terry Stotts to the Pacers??? That would be a good option for the Pacers. I'd also look at guys like Billups and Sam Cassell (same for Boston). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, BGleas said: Will never happen, but every GM in the league must be calling Portland today... Jaylen Brown/Romeo Langford for Dame Lilliard. Of course the Celtics would have to throw in several picks, and then find a trade partner for Kemba. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5g7jh6m Does Dame want out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 Just now, KoB2011 said: Does Dame want out? I don't know. I'm sure he was emotional after the game, so you can't take this as what he'll be feeling in a few weeks, but he did post this after the game...Notice the caption. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, BGleas said: That would be a good option for the Pacers. I'd also look at guys like Billups and Sam Cassell (same for Boston). Billups wanted no part of the Pacers last time from what I heard. I don't think Nate did a bad job but ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 19 minutes ago, BGleas said: Will never happen, but every GM in the league must be calling Portland today... Jaylen Brown/Romeo Langford for Dame Lilliard. Of course the Celtics would have to throw in several picks, and then find a trade partner for Kemba. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5g7jh6m F*%# Brad Stevens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, rico said: F*%# Brad Stevens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, BGleas said: That would be a good option for the Pacers. I'd also look at guys like Billups and Sam Cassell (same for Boston). Listen to DD yesterday and he thought Boston should offer a huge offer to Juwan Howard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) Is this the year Myles finally ends up in Boston? I think so. Myles for Smart and Romeo work financially and maybe a 1st from Boston? Myles is better than Robert Williams and well ya'll know about Tristan Thompson lol Pacers can't keep running it back. Injuries will continue to happen. A change is needed Edited June 4, 2021 by dwtaylor1055 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Listen to DD yesterday and he thought Boston should offer a huge offer to Juwan Howard Yeah, I think he should definitely be on the list. I think he's doubtful though, as I believe he has a son on the team now and another that's maybe a senior in high school that will probably go to Michigan. Off the top of my head, my list for the Celtics would be something like Billups, Cassell, Howard, Hammon, Lawson... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Is this the year Myles finally ends up in Boston? I think so. Myles for Smart and Romeo work financially and maybe a 1st from Boston? Myles is better than Robert Williams and well ya'll know about Tristan Thompson lol Pacers can't keep running it back. Injuries will continue to happen. A change is needed Doubtful IMO. Robert Williams had a borderline breakout year and is a very similar player to Turner, if he can stay healthy and minus being a perimeter threat. His per 36 minute stats this year were arguably better than Turner's, he had become a starter this year, and I'd expect his minutes to only rise, so not sure adding Turner's salary makes a ton of sense for Boston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwtaylor1055 Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, BGleas said: Doubtful IMO. Robert Williams had a borderline breakout year and is a very similar player to Turner, if he can stay healthy and minus being a perimeter threat. His per 36 minute stats this year were arguably better than Turner's, he had become a starter this year, and I'd expect his minutes to only rise, so not sure adding Turner's salary makes a ton of sense for Boston. Boston can win now and win more or wait to allow younger guys to develop such as Williams or Romeo. Williams is still developing and likely won't hit his peak for a few more years. Myles is in his prime now and can step out near the perimeter and shoot. Sure their Per 36 mins were probably similar, however, there is still unknown with Williams whereas Myles you know what you are getting now and Boston can win now and run with a tandem of Kemba/Brown/Tatum/Myles. Take away Browns injury and if those four are playing to their potential Boston is still in the playoffs. Edited June 4, 2021 by dwtaylor1055 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, dwtaylor1055 said: Boston can win now and win more or wait to allow younger guys to develop such as Williams or Romeo. Williams is still developing and likely won't hit his peak for a few more years. Myles is in his prime now and can step out near the perimeter and shoot. Sure their Per 36 mins were probably similar, however, there is still unknown with Williams whereas Myles you know what you are getting now and Boston can win now and run with a tandem of Kemba/Brown/Tatum/Myles. Take away Browns injury and if those four are playing to their potential Boston is still in the playoffs. I just don't know that Turner is that much better (he is better, but how much?) at this point than Williams to justify the salary increase it would be. Williams isn't that far off right now, he's still getting better but he's not "a couple years away". Assuming health and the trajectory he's been on the last year+, I expect a pretty big season from him next year (relative to his position and role on the team as a defending, rebounding, shot blocker that can switch defensively, etc.) He was their starting center the last month or so before his injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbmhoosier Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 55 minutes ago, rico said: F*%# Brad Stevens Who? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, BGleas said: Will never happen, but every GM in the league must be calling Portland today... Jaylen Brown/Romeo Langford for Dame Lilliard. Of course the Celtics would have to throw in several picks, and then find a trade partner for Kemba. http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y5g7jh6m Yeah I don't think Portland will move Lillard....probably would try to move CJ first if anything. But hear me out....gotta mega trade for you that might interest you. Both Boston and LA would send picks to Portland...there is something for everyone in that trade...Portland lands a young star plus a stud defender. You guys get to pair up Lillard with Tatum and move off Kemba's contract and yet still had positive veteran defenders and plus shooter. You still have the trade exception to use to fill in around them. LA gets a primary third scoring option that they desperately need to help carry the load for Kawhi and PG....oh and a guy that can continue the commitment to "rest" during the regular season. They would fill in veterans around those 3 primary guys and Thompson is familiar with Lue. I don't know...I don't think any team is super thrilled but none of them seem to be going anywhere and they all need a shake up. Celtics +5 players ($73.9m), Cap Impact - $2.9M Rajon Rondo PG, 6' 1", -1.2 LEBRON Secondary Ball Handler $7.5M 1yr Patrick Beverley PG, 6' 1", 0.27 LEBRON Stationary Shooter $14.3M 1yr Damian Lillard PG, 6' 2", 3.74 LEBRON Shot Creator $39.3M 4yrs Ivica Zubac C, 0.06 LEBRON Roll + Cut Big TE $7.5M 2yrs Luke Kennard SG, 6' 5", -2.46 LEBRON Movement Shooter $12.7M 4yrs +1 Wins -5.82 MPG +0.39 Off. -2.41 Def. Clippers +2 players ($45.7m), Cap Impact + $3.6M Tristan Thompson PF, 6' 9", 0.04 LEBRON Roll + Cut Big $9.7M 1yr Kemba Walker PG, 1.69 LEBRON Primary Ball Handler $36.0M 3yrs +1 Wins -25.79 MPG +4.13 Off. +0.95 Def. Trail Blazers +2 players ($38.7m), Cap Impact - $675K Marcus Smart SG, 6' 3", 0.43 LEBRON Primary Ball Handler $13.8M 1yr Jaylen Brown SG, 6' 6", 0.23 LEBRON Movement Shooter $24.8M 3yrs -3 Wins +31.61 MPG -4.52 Off. +1.46 Def. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Billingsley99 said: Billups wanted no part of the Pacers last time from what I heard. I don't think Nate did a bad job but ... I think he knows he would be limited with the Pacers (by ownership). I think he fits Boston very very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 44 minutes ago, dgambill said: Yeah I don't think Portland will move Lillard....probably would try to move CJ first if anything. But hear me out....gotta mega trade for you that might interest you. Both Boston and LA would send picks to Portland...there is something for everyone in that trade...Portland lands a young star plus a stud defender. You guys get to pair up Lillard with Tatum and move off Kemba's contract and yet still had positive veteran defenders and plus shooter. You still have the trade exception to use to fill in around them. LA gets a primary third scoring option that they desperately need to help carry the load for Kawhi and PG....oh and a guy that can continue the commitment to "rest" during the regular season. They would fill in veterans around those 3 primary guys and Thompson is familiar with Lue. I don't know...I don't think any team is super thrilled but none of them seem to be going anywhere and they all need a shake up. Celtics +5 players ($73.9m), Cap Impact - $2.9M Rajon Rondo PG, 6' 1", -1.2 LEBRON Secondary Ball Handler $7.5M 1yr Patrick Beverley PG, 6' 1", 0.27 LEBRON Stationary Shooter $14.3M 1yr Damian Lillard PG, 6' 2", 3.74 LEBRON Shot Creator $39.3M 4yrs Ivica Zubac C, 0.06 LEBRON Roll + Cut Big TE $7.5M 2yrs Luke Kennard SG, 6' 5", -2.46 LEBRON Movement Shooter $12.7M 4yrs +1 Wins -5.82 MPG +0.39 Off. -2.41 Def. Clippers +2 players ($45.7m), Cap Impact + $3.6M Tristan Thompson PF, 6' 9", 0.04 LEBRON Roll + Cut Big $9.7M 1yr Kemba Walker PG, 1.69 LEBRON Primary Ball Handler $36.0M 3yrs +1 Wins -25.79 MPG +4.13 Off. +0.95 Def. Trail Blazers +2 players ($38.7m), Cap Impact - $675K Marcus Smart SG, 6' 3", 0.43 LEBRON Primary Ball Handler $13.8M 1yr Jaylen Brown SG, 6' 6", 0.23 LEBRON Movement Shooter $24.8M 3yrs -3 Wins +31.61 MPG -4.52 Off. +1.46 Def. There's an interesting deal to be had there. I don't think the Celtics would need Lillard, Rondo, Beverly and Payton Pritchard on their roster, so the pieces might need to be played with, but that's actually an interesting deal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 4, 2021 Report Share Posted June 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, BGleas said: There's an interesting deal to be had there. I don't think the Celtics would need Lillard, Rondo, Beverly and Payton Pritchard on their roster, so the pieces might need to be played with, but that's actually an interesting deal. Oh no doubt I had to make the money work. Likely would move around some pieces further and Pritchard might have to go to Portland or something and some other young guys to make room for the additions but since you probably can't bring back Fournier maybe Kennard can offset that. I know you wouldn't want to give up both Smart and Brown but if you are getting defensive help from Rondo/Beverly and you still have Romeo maybe the let down isn't so much. With that trade exception (a big one at that it can be broken up into say two mid level guys to help fill out the lineup/bench). Plus Zubac is a big upgrade over Thompson and would pair nicely with allowing Williams to still come along. A guy I think you should then target would then be Delon Wright...I love this kids game. Does a bit of everything, can run the point letting Lillard play off the ball some...making around 9 million so you could easily move off a young player plus part of that exception for immediate help and Sacramento is always looking for young guys (not sure why they acquired him). Guy is just a winning player and deserves to be on a team going somewhere. He is 6'5 avgs 10pts, 4.4 assist, 4.3 rebs, 1.6 steals on 46% shooting and 37% from 3 80% from the line. All that playing roughly 27 mins a night. Another stat stuffer like Williams but does it with NOTHING being ran for him and certainly not being even a 2nd or 3rd option. A couple guys like that to have around Tatum and Lillard...you don't need another superstar...you got two of the best 1-1 players in the game...just need support around them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 Harden goes down less than a minute into the game. Has to be the most injury riddled playoffs ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billingsley99 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 15 hours ago, dgambill said: Harden goes down less than a minute into the game. Has to be the most injury riddled playoffs ever. Too short of a turnaround between seasons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Billingsley99 said: Too short of a turnaround between seasons. Yeah I think something to that. Of course Harden came into the season over weight and spent the half the year hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 This Trae Young guy is okay. So are the Hawks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 I may regret saying this but.... Phraudulent Philly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 Saw where Jason Kidd took his name out for the Portland job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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