Drroogh Posted Thursday at 01:34 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:34 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, cybergates said: @Boiler Sam Not putting more Turdue talk in Mullins thread, but wanted to comment so did it here instead... To give context to your 5 of 7, would have missed the tournament in COVID cancelled 2020. Bad 1st round losses in 2021 & 2023. Your fans were calling for a new coach after the loss to N Texas in 2021. Just like they were after missing 2 straight NCAAs in 2013-14. IMO - Matt Painter is a good coach that has developed a system that works for him and Purdue. His "right guys" is true. He's recruiting players willing to redshirt. Players that are there to win, not a path to the NBA. Edey is a perfect example of how Painter used him vs. how other coaches might. He was effective down low to the point of being 2x NPOY. I think a lot of places, they would have allowed him to develop a 3pt shot in his later years to help him be more NBA ready/desirable. It ended up working out for Edey and Painter/Turdue anyway b/c he was drafted in the lottery and they won a lot of games. End of the day, I think Painter was underrated in the regular season for many years because of his lack of March success. Now he's a bit overrated because of his breakthrough March this year. Building off your thoughts, it comes down to ‘do you want to win championships, or do you want to just be considered good?’ I think a lot of the anti Woodson posters are missing the point! Woodson is competing against the shiny moment UCon and Kansas for the top talent in the country not just Indiana! Does he still need to learn and prove it? Hell yeah! But would I be willing to accept just being good like Purdont? Hell NO! By the way, my AlmaMater won the NCAA Basketball Championship this past season! On the 50th anniversary of Div3 Edited Thursday at 01:43 PM by Drroogh 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler Sam Posted Thursday at 01:38 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 01:38 PM 1 hour ago, cybergates said: @Boiler Sam Not putting more Turdue talk in Mullins thread, but wanted to comment so did it here instead... To give context to your 5 of 7, would have missed the tournament in COVID cancelled 2020. Bad 1st round losses in 2021 & 2023. Your fans were calling for a new coach after the loss to N Texas in 2021. Just like they were after missing 2 straight NCAAs in 2013-14. IMO - Matt Painter is a good coach that has developed a system that works for him and Purdue. His "right guys" is true. He's recruiting players willing to redshirt. Players that are there to win, not a path to the NBA. Edey is a perfect example of how Painter used him vs. how other coaches might. He was effective down low to the point of being 2x NPOY. I think a lot of places, they would have allowed him to develop a 3pt shot in his later years to help him be more NBA ready/desirable. It ended up working out for Edey and Painter/Turdue anyway b/c he was drafted in the lottery and they won a lot of games. End of the day, I think Painter was underrated in the regular season for many years because of his lack of March success. Now he's a bit overrated because of his breakthrough March this year. OK. 5 out of 7 sweet sixteens, or 8, doesn’t strike me as “abstract failure”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted Thursday at 02:46 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 02:46 PM 58 minutes ago, Boiler Sam said: OK. 5 out of 7 sweet sixteens, or 8, doesn’t strike me as “abstract failure”. Purdue basketball is to Lamar Jackson in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted Thursday at 03:35 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:35 PM 1 hour ago, Boiler Sam said: OK. 5 out of 7 sweet sixteens, or 8, doesn’t strike me as “abstract failure”. I wasn't the one stating "abstract failure" that was someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted Thursday at 03:51 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:51 PM 54 minutes ago, ledies22 said: Purdue basketball is to Lamar Jackson in football. But it is still Purdue basketball it’s still Indiana Basketball I grew up watching from High School to Valpo & Ball State. Guys diving on the floor…giving their all for the team Hard to remember seeing any Hoosier 5 stars diving on the floor last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted Thursday at 03:55 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:55 PM 2 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Hard to remember seeing any Hoosier 5 stars diving on the floor last year That's a dumb statement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler Sam Posted Thursday at 03:58 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:58 PM 21 minutes ago, cybergates said: I wasn't the one stating "abstract failure" that was someone else. ab·stract adjective /ˈabˌstrak(t)/ 1. existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence. Maybe more true than I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted Thursday at 04:57 PM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:57 PM 1 hour ago, Purdue7 said: Guys diving on the floor 😂 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted Thursday at 05:01 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:01 PM 1 hour ago, Purdue7 said: But it is still Purdue basketball it’s still Indiana Basketball I grew up watching from High School to Valpo & Ball State. Guys diving on the floor…giving their all for the team Hard to remember seeing any Hoosier Turdue 5 stars diving on the floor last year 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted Thursday at 07:37 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 07:37 PM 7 hours ago, cybergates said: @Boiler Sam Not putting more Turdue talk in Mullins thread, but wanted to comment so did it here instead... To give context to your 5 of 7, would have missed the tournament in COVID cancelled 2020. Bad 1st round losses in 2021 & 2023. Your fans were calling for a new coach after the loss to N Texas in 2021. Just like they were after missing 2 straight NCAAs in 2013-14. IMO - Matt Painter is a good coach that has developed a system that works for him and Purdue. His "right guys" is true. He's recruiting players willing to redshirt. Players that are there to win, not a path to the NBA. Edey is a perfect example of how Painter used him vs. how other coaches might. He was effective down low to the point of being 2x NPOY. I think a lot of places, they would have allowed him to develop a 3pt shot in his later years to help him be more NBA ready/desirable. It ended up working out for Edey and Painter/Turdue anyway b/c he was drafted in the lottery and they won a lot of games. End of the day, I think Painter was underrated in the regular season for many years because of his lack of March success. Now he's a bit overrated because of his breakthrough March this year. The majority of fans weren’t calling for a new coach after the North Texas loss lol. That’s not remotely accurate. And it’s interesting trying to downplay making 5 of the last 7 S16’s when only a handful of programs can say the same. I’m guessing many of you would be thrilled with that considering the last decade or so in Bloomington. You really think other coaches would’ve let him develop a 3-point shot? I think a smart coach would use him in the way he’s most effective which is close to the basket where he was unstoppable. Opposing coaches would’ve thanked Painter if he let Edey take 3’s lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted Thursday at 08:18 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:18 PM 10 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: The majority of fans weren’t calling for a new coach after the North Texas loss lol. That’s not remotely accurate. And it’s interesting trying to downplay making 5 of the last 7 S16’s when only a handful of programs can say the same. I’m guessing many of you would be thrilled with that considering the last decade or so in Bloomington. You really think other coaches would’ve let him develop a 3-point shot? I think a smart coach would use him in the way he’s most effective which is close to the basket where he was unstoppable. Opposing coaches would’ve thanked Painter if he let Edey take 3’s lol. I think the point here that seems to be flying over the 3 purdue guys here is that...... for how strong Purdue is during the regular season, they are rather less than come tournament time. Over the last 10 years Purdue is probably top 10 in wins in the P5. and they have: All 9 appearances, 1 elite 8, 1 championship game appearance, a loss to N Texas, and getting beat by 16 seed... all of that with I think 7 times a 4 seed or better. That's like the last decade Cowboys, present day Ravens, 90's Knicks, Manning's Colts (except he got one), Nash's Suns. Purdue is great. Post season wise, they should be better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted Thursday at 08:24 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:24 PM 29 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: The majority of fans weren’t calling for a new coach after the North Texas loss lol. That’s not remotely accurate. And it’s interesting trying to downplay making 5 of the last 7 S16’s when only a handful of programs can say the same. I’m guessing many of you would be thrilled with that considering the last decade or so in Bloomington. You really think other coaches would’ve let him develop a 3-point shot? I think a smart coach would use him in the way he’s most effective which is close to the basket where he was unstoppable. Opposing coaches would’ve thanked Painter if he let Edey take 3’s lol. Last I'll comment on this since you lack comprehension based on your bias. Never said majority and a quick google search turned up this. You sure LOL a lot. Any team with less success would be happier with more success over the past 7 years. Just as Turdue fan's would be happier with UConn's success over the past 7 years (or just 2 really). Lame argument LOL! Plenty of coaches let their players develop things to the detriment of their team/success. I was complimenting Painter for focusing on winning instead. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted Thursday at 09:23 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:23 PM 4 hours ago, cybergates said: Did purdon't have a 5 star? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted Thursday at 09:46 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 09:46 PM (edited) 5 hours ago, Purdue7 said: But it is still Purdue basketball it’s still Indiana Basketball I grew up watching from High School to Valpo & Ball State. Guys diving on the floor…giving their all for the team Hard to remember seeing any Hoosier 5 stars diving on the floor last year We saw your mom diving on the floor last year...🥸 Edited Thursday at 09:49 PM by Dawg Bawls 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted Thursday at 10:10 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:10 PM 1 hour ago, ledies22 said: I think the point here that seems to be flying over the 3 purdue guys here is that...... for how strong Purdue is during the regular season, they are rather less than come tournament time. Over the last 10 years Purdue is probably top 10 in wins in the P5. and they have: All 9 appearances, 1 elite 8, 1 championship game appearance, a loss to N Texas, and getting beat by 16 seed... all of that with I think 7 times a 4 seed or better. That's like the last decade Cowboys, present day Ravens, 90's Knicks, Manning's Colts (except he got one), Nash's Suns. Purdue is great. Post season wise, they should be better. Why are you only quoting elite 8’s and beyond? S16’s count too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted Thursday at 10:30 PM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:30 PM 19 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Why are you only quoting elite 8’s and beyond? Because I don't have another 44 years to wait for your next Final 4 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted Thursday at 10:31 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:31 PM Just now, IUFLA said: Because I don't have another 44 years to wait for your next Final 4 You’re not that old FLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted Thursday at 10:33 PM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:33 PM Just now, Stlboiler23 said: You’re not that old FLA I'd be 111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted Thursday at 10:35 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:35 PM 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I'd be 111 In 44 years I will be a spry 98 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted Thursday at 10:36 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:36 PM 3 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I'd be 111 111 is the new 75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted Thursday at 10:53 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 10:53 PM 5 hours ago, IUFLA said: 😂 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted Thursday at 11:01 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:01 PM 7 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Soooo looks like him, I wonder if he really talks like him too, ...oh he does 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted Thursday at 11:05 PM Author Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:05 PM 10 minutes ago, 5fouls said: That must be Gillis with the red beezer... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted Thursday at 11:07 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:07 PM 6 hours ago, IUFLA said: 😂 Ah, my favorite Big Ten rivalry. Fletcher Loyer vs a stiff indoor breeze. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted Thursday at 11:11 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 11:11 PM 35 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I'd be 111 33 minutes ago, IU Scott said: In 44 years I will be a spry 98 I'll be 59. Not really. 103 for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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