MrsStoller Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Drroogh said: Does your husband know you post here? Hahaha, yes. He then doesn't have to hear me talk IU basketball incessantly! Does he know he may need to make sacrifices? Maybe not? hahaha 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 1 hour ago, MrsStoller said: Hahaha, yes. He then doesn't have to hear me talk IU basketball incessantly! Does he know he may need to make sacrifices? Maybe not? hahaha You remind me of my Sister in law... She's everything I ever wanted in a wife. Pure gold !!! Gets my total respect !!! (not that that means anything of course)! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Loving the new Purdue logo! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 16 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: From what I’ve seen, a good number of folks don’t understand the college 3-second rule because what Edey does is perfectly legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 12 minutes ago, ledies22 said: Lol he absolutely left the lane during that 14 seconds, the count resets on a shot attempt, it resets when he has the ball, etc… should I continue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Just now, Stlboiler23 said: Lol he absolutely left the lane during that 14 seconds, the count resets on a shot attempt, it resets when he has the ball, etc… should I continue? please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, ledies22 said: please. I’ll admit he got away with a walk there but it wasn’t 3 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 27 minutes ago, ledies22 said: I put Boiler's definition to the test. 7:24: Edey enters the lane with both feet, but almost immediately puts one foot back out. 7:23: Edey lifts the foot in the lane ever so slightly. I'm not sure a ref could have caught it, but we'll give him the benefit of the doubt. 3 second clock reset. 7:22: Edey re-enters the lane with both feet. 7:20: Ball is passed to Edey. 3 second clock resets. 7:18: Edey passes the ball back out. 7:17: Edey puts one foot outside the lane and lifts foot in lane. 3 second clock reset. 7:16: Edey exits the lane (ever so slightly...had a part of one foot parallel and on the line, but again, I'll give benefit of the doubt). Also, shot attempt. 3 Second clock reset. 7:15 Edey re-enters the lane, both feet. 7:12 Edey puts one foot halfway outside the lane and lifts the foot in the lane. We're really skirting the line here. Potential 3 second violation. 7:10: Video ends. It's really borderline if you break it down second by second. It seems like he's very aware of what the rule is and is making an attempt to push it to its limit, but is also getting several benefit of the doubt calls like at 7:12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 2 hands in the back and the cylinder rule are never mentioned If refs don’t call it either way play on PS. Double & Triple team….it worked for FDU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 55 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Lol he absolutely left the lane during that 14 seconds, the count resets on a shot attempt, it resets when he has the ball, etc… should I continue? Actually it doesn't reset when the player has the ball. It only resets if he makes an attempt to score. If he sets up in the lane and receives a pass, holds the ball and doesn't make a move to the basket, it's a violation. An allowance is made to continue a count but suspend a violation ruling when, before 3 seconds, an offensive player starts to attempt to score (including dribbling to the basket). If the move is directly completed, no violation can occur. However, if the move is aborted (e.g. by a pass or fake), no exception applies. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, 13th&Jackson said: Actually it doesn't reset when the player has the ball. It only resets if he makes an attempt to score. If he sets up in the lane and receives a pass, holds the ball and doesn't make a move to the basket, it's a violation. An allowance is made to continue a count but suspend a violation ruling when, before 3 seconds, an offensive player starts to attempt to score (including dribbling to the basket). If the move is directly completed, no violation can occur. However, if the move is aborted (e.g. by a pass or fake), no exception applies. Once again.....borderline. Edey did make a move towards the basket before passing back out in the above example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 2 minutes ago, Zlinedavid said: Once again.....borderline. Edey did make a move towards the basket before passing back out in the above example. Right, but it doesn't reset by making a move to the basket. For example, if a player is in the lane 2 seconds, catches a pass, dribbles toward the basket for 3 seconds (5 total) and puts up a shot, no violation. If he does the exact same, but instead of shooting, he passes to a cutter, it's a violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlinedavid Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 1 minute ago, 13th&Jackson said: Right, but it doesn't reset by making a move to the basket. For example, if a player is in the lane 2 seconds, catches a pass, dribbles toward the basket for 3 seconds (5 total) and puts up a shot, no violation. If he does the exact same, but instead of shooting, he passes to a cutter, it's a violation. How many times have you ever seen the latter called? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Just now, Zlinedavid said: How many times have you ever seen the latter called? Never. Officials don't want to call three seconds. I read an article from last year where Chris Holtmann said after a game against Purdue that the rule should just be eliminated because the officials won't call it. He said Purdue knows at the most, it would be called once a game, so they just keep running what they do. “Listen, I was on the officials the entire game. I really do think that needs to be evaluated whether or not you keep that rule in the rulebook. Because if it’s not gonna be enforced, why is it in fact in the rulebook?” Holtmann said. “And clearly, it’s not a rule that is enforced. He does a good job at times of dancing in and out, but more times than not, it’s clear. And listen, give them credit. They know it’s not going to get called. And if at the very most, it’s gonna get called once a game, at the very most. And most times it won’t.” Well, what they’re saying is, ‘Hey, they’re not gonna call it more than once at the most, so why wouldn’t we just park him there?’ It’s smart on their part. And what we’ve got to do is be able to adjust better, and that’s what we’re trying to do.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, Zlinedavid said: I put Boiler's definition to the test. 7:24: Edey enters the lane with both feet, but almost immediately puts one foot back out. 7:23: Edey lifts the foot in the lane ever so slightly. I'm not sure a ref could have caught it, but we'll give him the benefit of the doubt. 3 second clock reset. 7:22: Edey re-enters the lane with both feet. 7:20: Ball is passed to Edey. 3 second clock resets. 7:18: Edey passes the ball back out. 7:17: Edey puts one foot outside the lane and lifts foot in lane. 3 second clock reset. 7:16: Edey exits the lane (ever so slightly...had a part of one foot parallel and on the line, but again, I'll give benefit of the doubt). Also, shot attempt. 3 Second clock reset. 7:15 Edey re-enters the lane, both feet. 7:12 Edey puts one foot halfway outside the lane and lifts the foot in the lane. We're really skirting the line here. Potential 3 second violation. 7:10: Video ends. It's really borderline if you break it down second by second. It seems like he's very aware of what the rule is and is making an attempt to push it to its limit, but is also getting several benefit of the doubt calls like at 7:12. So you're saying Edey is the James Harden of 3 second violations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 3 hours ago, Zlinedavid said: I put Boiler's definition to the test. 7:24: Edey enters the lane with both feet, but almost immediately puts one foot back out. 7:23: Edey lifts the foot in the lane ever so slightly. I'm not sure a ref could have caught it, but we'll give him the benefit of the doubt. 3 second clock reset. 7:22: Edey re-enters the lane with both feet. 7:20: Ball is passed to Edey. 3 second clock resets. 7:18: Edey passes the ball back out. 7:17: Edey puts one foot outside the lane and lifts foot in lane. 3 second clock reset. 7:16: Edey exits the lane (ever so slightly...had a part of one foot parallel and on the line, but again, I'll give benefit of the doubt). Also, shot attempt. 3 Second clock reset. 7:15 Edey re-enters the lane, both feet. 7:12 Edey puts one foot halfway outside the lane and lifts the foot in the lane. We're really skirting the line here. Potential 3 second violation. 7:10: Video ends. It's really borderline if you break it down second by second. It seems like he's very aware of what the rule is and is making an attempt to push it to its limit, but is also getting several benefit of the doubt calls like at 7:12. Basically nothing egregious which is what a lot of folks seem to think. If it were the NBA? Yeah they’d have a legit gripe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForHumanity Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Is it wrong to experiment with a 16 foot wide lane during the final 4 in the NIT? I think it's ridiculous as F!!! The whole season they played in a 12 foot lane now extended in an season ending NIT. Why not do it early in the season next year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Ian Eagle the new voice of the final 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 Older article but it's pretty spot on. https://theathletic.com/5196697/2024/01/16/purdue-indiana-basketball-zach-edey/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted April 3 Report Share Posted April 3 29 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: Older article but it's pretty spot on. https://theathletic.com/5196697/2024/01/16/purdue-indiana-basketball-zach-edey/ You do know that you are why we cheer for plastic 6 pack rings in the ocean... Right? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eddy4iu Posted April 3 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 3 2 hours ago, ForHumanity said: Is it wrong to experiment with a 16 foot wide lane during the final 4 in the NIT? I think it's ridiculous as F!!! The whole season they played in a 12 foot lane now extended in an season ending NIT. Why not do it early in the season next year? Edey would just need a wider tent..... 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 7 hours ago, Zlinedavid said: I put Boiler's definition to the test. 7:24: Edey enters the lane with both feet, but almost immediately puts one foot back out. 7:23: Edey lifts the foot in the lane ever so slightly. I'm not sure a ref could have caught it, but we'll give him the benefit of the doubt. 3 second clock reset. 7:22: Edey re-enters the lane with both feet. 7:20: Ball is passed to Edey. 3 second clock resets. 7:18: Edey passes the ball back out. 7:17: Edey puts one foot outside the lane and lifts foot in lane. 3 second clock reset. 7:16: Edey exits the lane (ever so slightly...had a part of one foot parallel and on the line, but again, I'll give benefit of the doubt). Also, shot attempt. 3 Second clock reset. 7:15 Edey re-enters the lane, both feet. 7:12 Edey puts one foot halfway outside the lane and lifts the foot in the lane. We're really skirting the line here. Potential 3 second violation. 7:10: Video ends. It's really borderline if you break it down second by second. It seems like he's very aware of what the rule is and is making an attempt to push it to its limit, but is also getting several benefit of the doubt calls like at 7:12. Great analysis, but what is missing is that refs don't count as fast as seconds on the clock. They count as fast as "1 (2 seconds go by), now "2" (2-3 more seconds go by, "3" (which is now a total of 7-8 seconds in real time). So you have to take a nap in the lane to get called for 3 seconds anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Turtle Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 2 hours ago, Joe_Hoopsier said: You do know that you are why we cheer for plastic 6 pack rings in the ocean... Right? I wonder who the anonymous coach was who said that the last 30 years hasn't had much blue in that blood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsStoller Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 23 hours ago, Joe_Hoopsier said: You remind me of my Sister in law... She's everything I ever wanted in a wife. Pure gold !!! Gets my total respect !!! (not that that means anything of course)! Thank you! You’re too kind. She sounds terrific & always a blessing to have amazing in-laws! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted April 4 Report Share Posted April 4 14 hours ago, eddy4iu said: Edey would just need a wider tent..... It would be awesome if PUke would dedicate the lane's at Makey arena "Eddy Lane" Paint it like a street sign. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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