Drroogh Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: Where are MM and Goode playing? I don’t see Goode as a 4 at all. MM can play some 4 but serious doubts how that helps the team. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 2 minutes ago, Drroogh said: I don’t see Goode as a 4 at all. MM can play some 4 but serious doubts how that helps the team. 🤷♂️ Confuses me. To each their own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 3 minutes ago, btownqb said: Confuses me. To each their own. I understand, but I think if the day in day out game plan is to have MM, Goode and a backup player yet to be named covering 26min in the front court. IU will be in serious trouble and that doesn’t even include the risk of injury. But what do I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Drroogh said: I understand, but I think if the day in day out game plan is to have MM, Goode and a backup player yet to be named covering 26min in the front court. IU will be in serious trouble and that doesn’t even include the risk of injury. But what do I know? I thought we have to stop playing 2 posts? That has been the accepted narrative across all of these talks in the offseason.... Other than maybe 5-6 mins a game, for a backup 5, the lineup/mins distribution is already set. IMO Edited May 8 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 5 minutes ago, btownqb said: I thought we have to stop playing 2 posts? That has been the accepted narrative across all of these talks in the offseason.... Other than maybe 5-6 mins a game, for a backup 5, the lineup/mins distribution is already set. IMO Yeah I get that and agree for the most part. I just don’t see Malik playing extended minutes as the only real front court player. Scares the death out of me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, Drroogh said: Yeah I get that and agree for the most part. I just don’t see Malik playing extended minutes as the only real front court player. Scares the death out of me! Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 8 minutes ago, Drroogh said: I don’t see Goode as a 4 at all. MM can play some 4 but serious doubts how that helps the team. 🤷♂️ Goode and/or MM playing the 4 allows for IU to play the 4 out 1 in. I think we will get a lot of that this year, and i think it will be our best line up. 1 Rice 2 Carlyle 3 TG/MM/Goode 4 MM/Goode 5 Ballo slightly over MR purely based on defense... especially if MM and Goode are at the 3 and 4. I think the 4 is pretty much solidified. We need a 5-10 guy at the 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 1 minute ago, btownqb said: Why? Just me I guess? I’d like to have a plan B just in case! Kind of like last year when there was no plan B for when X didn’t show up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Drroogh said: Just me I guess? I’d like to have a plan B just in case! Kind of like last year when there was no plan B for when X didn’t show up! I mean... we are adding at least one more big guy. We aren't going to have two schollies open. Edited May 8 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 4 hours ago, Drroogh said: Elite recruits more likely to transfer if they don’t go Pro! I know it’s a reach, but wonder if one of the NBA combine dropout players would consider IU? With Ballo’s 26min/game and Malik’s 28min/game there’s 26 minutes left in the front court! Here is how I see the front court rotation going this year Start MM, Reneau, Ballo Sub in Goode for Ballo, MM Goode, Reneau Sub in Ballo and Tucker for Reneau and MM, Goode, Ballo, Tucker. Sub MM in For Goode, Tucker, MM, Ballo Sub Reneau for Tucker, then you got your starters back in to finish the half Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 Not sure I’m buying all the love for Goode? Maybe it comes from that game I watched last season where he had about as bad a half as I’ve ever seen! It wasn’t all on him I mean it was just everything went wrong!🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 2 minutes ago, Drroogh said: Not sure I’m buying all the love for Goode? Maybe it comes from that game I watched last season where he had about as bad a half as I’ve ever seen! It wasn’t all on him I mean it was just everything went wrong!🤷♂️ He brings exactly what this team needs and that is a knock down shooter. He also plays with a lot of enthusiasm and energy which this team needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 I have a hard time not seeing Ballo and MR in at the same time. Until i see something different, this is exactly what i expect. With the upgrade at 1/2/3 this could work if those first 3 spots provide a scoring danger for all 3 levels. Just my 2c 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 36 minutes ago, IowaHoosierFan said: I have a hard time not seeing Ballo and MR in at the same time. Until i see something different, this is exactly what i expect. With the upgrade at 1/2/3 this could work if those first 3 spots provide a scoring danger for all 3 levels. Just my 2c I assume there will be times they won't be on the court together unless both plays 40 minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: I assume there will be times they won't be on the court together unless both plays 40 minutes Agreed but my guess is 25+ minutes a game these 2 will be on the floor together and if MR can work on his not getting in foul trouble, that could increase to even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 (edited) 19 hours ago, IowaHoosierFan said: I have a hard time not seeing Ballo and MR in at the same time. Until i see something different, this is exactly what i expect. With the upgrade at 1/2/3 this could work if those first 3 spots provide a scoring danger for all 3 levels. Just my 2c You nailed it…we’ll be fine with 2 in as long as 1-3 can score. It didn’t work last year, because none of our guards were a scoring threat on a consistent basis. All the opposition had to do was pack it in and double/triple team our bigs. Hopefully, they won’t have that luxury this year. Edited May 9 by Hoosier4Life53 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 3 hours ago, Drroogh said: Not sure I’m buying all the love for Goode? Maybe it comes from that game I watched last season where he had about as bad a half as I’ve ever seen! It wasn’t all on him I mean it was just everything went wrong!🤷♂️ They needed a guy like Goode who can stretch the floor. I'm not sure what position he will play. But remember last season when they brought in the back ups? It would be some combo of Walker, Sparks, Banks or Gunn. Walker would have wide open 3's jack it up and it would be a total brick. Then Gunn would force a few. They had absolutely no shot to get an easy score. This year, with Goode etc. IU might have at least one guy off the bench who can actually hit a shot. Although walker was actually pretty good but he was like a poor man's Malik. Ware, Malik, Walker, Sparks and Banks - 85% to 95% scoring in the post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 1 hour ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: You nailed it…we’ll be fine with 2 in as long as the 1-3 can score. It didn’t work last year, because none of our guards were a scoring threat on a consistent basis. All the opposition had to do was pack it in and double/triple team our bigs. Hopefully, they won’t have that luxury this year. Spot on...And I also think how Carlyle and Rice play D is big as well...Neither had great defensive metrics last year, but Carlyle is said to have the tools to be a lock down guy... A big part of our struggles last year was guarding the 3 point line... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted May 8 Report Share Posted May 8 10 hours ago, IUaic said: I had to watch it numerous times to find it. I did cause shes hot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 4 hours ago, IowaHoosierFan said: Agreed but my guess is 25+ minutes a game these 2 will be on the floor together and if MR can work on his not getting in foul trouble, that could increase to even more. Didn't MR fix his foul issue in the 2nd half of the season last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 9 hours ago, Joe_Hoopsier said: Didn't MR fix his foul issue in the 2nd half of the season last year? No, unfortunately it got worse. In his last 14 games, he fouled out six times and had four fouls five times. In the BTT, he fouled out against NEB and had four against PSU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 (edited) 22 hours ago, ledies22 said: Goode and/or MM playing the 4 allows for IU to play the 4 out 1 in. I think we will get a lot of that this year, and i think it will be our best line up. 1 Rice 2 Carlyle 3 TG/MM/Goode 4 MM/Goode 5 Ballo slightly over MR purely based on defense... especially if MM and Goode are at the 3 and 4. I think the 4 is pretty much solidified. We need a 5-10 guy at the 5. A 5-10 guy just wont get it done at the 5 ..., maybe 6-10😃 Edited May 9 by Dawg Bawls 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cosmicpowers Posted May 9 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 9 19 hours ago, Drroogh said: Not sure I’m buying all the love for Goode? Maybe it comes from that game I watched last season where he had about as bad a half as I’ve ever seen! It wasn’t all on him I mean it was just everything went wrong!🤷♂️ Illini fan here. My son bought a Goode jersey at SFC this year, doh 🙂 My eye-test assessment of Luke this past year was....he averaged 6 points, and without looking at the game-by-game, my perception is he would hit four 3s in one game and then zero in the next. His rebounding number went way up, and he got some huge boards, especially on the offensive end this year. Always hustles. Gets called for a lot of fouls trying hard. Oddly shaky from the FT line. He went through a slump where he couldn't hit shots and would come up with 3 fouls in succession without getting the key board, and that was rough. But overall, I feel like Illinois is worse without him, and I'm bummed he's playing in the conference/will play against us. 4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 2 minutes ago, cosmicpowers said: Illini fan here. My son bought a Goode jersey at SFC this year, doh 🙂 My eye-test assessment of Luke this past year was....he averaged 6 points, and without looking at the game-by-game, my perception is he would hit four 3s in one game and then zero in the next. His rebounding number went way up, and he got some huge boards, especially on the offensive end this year. Always hustles. Gets called for a lot of fouls trying hard. Oddly shaky from the FT line. He went through a slump where he couldn't hit shots and would come up with 3 fouls in succession without getting the key board, and that was rough. But overall, I feel like Illinois is worse without him, and I'm bummed he's playing in the conference/will play against us. And he's, at best, our 7th/8th guy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted May 9 Report Share Posted May 9 Also--- Goode has shot 31 total FTs in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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