Reacher Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Who was your MVP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Bruce Pearl? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 No one, how can you have a MVP in a loss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 Me for watching the whole thing and not breaking anything. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 XJ. We only lose by 18 if he plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Common Sense Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 IU fanbase for supporting this crap. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Hoopsier Posted December 9, 2023 Report Share Posted December 9, 2023 I voted MR, but after further consideration, I want to switch it to Cupps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Joe_Hoopsier said: I voted MR, but after further consideration, I want to switch it to Cupps. I’m getting beyond frustrated with how selfish MR tends to be. Needs to learn how to kick it out instead of forcing shots. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, kyhoosier29 said: I’m getting beyond frustrated with how selfish MR tends to be. Needs to learn how to kick it out instead of forcing shots. He makes most of his shots inside. 🤔 I looked it up. Going into today's game, he was shooting .643 from 2. That's not selfish. That's helping the team win (obviously did not lead to win today, but that's not being selfish). He also is 2nd on the team in assists. Edited December 10, 2023 by 5fouls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 IMG_1095.mov MR sleepwalking all day….maybe he was sick ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SawatchHoosier Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 12 hours ago, 5fouls said: He makes most of his shots inside. 🤔 I looked it up. Going into today's game, he was shooting .643 from 2. That's not selfish. That's helping the team win (obviously did not lead to win today, but that's not being selfish). He also is 2nd on the team in assists. I agree especially when you're option is to pass it out of the double team to a dude shooting 13% from 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, 5fouls said: He makes most of his shots inside. 🤔 I looked it up. Going into today's game, he was shooting .643 from 2. That's not selfish. That's helping the team win (obviously did not lead to win today, but that's not being selfish). He also is 2nd on the team in assists. His shooting percentage has nothing to do with my comment. If he’s forcing and making a two while Mgbako is standing on the wing wide open, then he’s absolutely being selfish. We don’t get many wide-open looks on the perimeter, so we need to take advantage. Yesterday and many times in the last few games he’s missed wide open guys by forcing shots or being late seeing them bc he gets the ball and is determined he’s going to shoot it. You didn’t mention the fact that he’s leading the team in turnovers, or that he’s only shooting 14% from 3, yet shot one out of rhythm yesterday because he wasn’t getting his at the time. Is he helping us win by getting only 4.9 RB per game? This wasn’t meant to attack MR, but you said he was helping us win bc he’s shooting it well. He HAS helped us win at times, but he could be doing a lot more to help us be better. Edited December 10, 2023 by kyhoosier29 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Didn’t see the game, but going on stats alone I went with Cupps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted December 10, 2023 Report Share Posted December 10, 2023 Xavier Johnson didn't make any bad plays the whole game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 11:26 PM, 5fouls said: He makes most of his shots inside. 🤔 I looked it up. Going into today's game, he was shooting .643 from 2. That's not selfish. That's helping the team win (obviously did not lead to win today, but that's not being selfish). He also is 2nd on the team in assists. I do think we can agree though that when you're double and triple teamed, he needs to at least be looking for an open outlet before trying to power to the basket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 23 hours ago, go_iu_bb said: Xavier Johnson didn't make any bad plays the whole game. Yeah, but how many good ones did he make? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Yeah, but how many good ones did he make? None but I'm trying to find something positive after this game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted December 11, 2023 Report Share Posted December 11, 2023 Just now, go_iu_bb said: None but I'm trying to find something positive after this game. Me too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) On 12/10/2023 at 12:26 AM, 5fouls said: He makes most of his shots inside. 🤔 I looked it up. Going into today's game, he was shooting .643 from 2. That's not selfish. That's helping the team win (obviously did not lead to win today, but that's not being selfish). He also is 2nd on the team in assists. And yet his TS% is 4th on the team and his ORtg is the worst on the team with guys over 20% usage that aren't named Payton Sparks (and perhaps the fact that Sparks has a usage that high should be discussed, too). You're correct he has a high assist rate, but he also has a high turnover rate and misses guys A LOT. He is a phenomenal interior passer, I don't think anyone disputes that, but he isn't willing to make the easy pass the majority of the time - kick outs, easy inbounds passes when we are getting pressured, etc. Malik has probably been our second best player this year, but he isn't playing anywhere close to his potential and we need him to. If we are looking for ways to improve this season, he probably has as much left in the tank for improvement as anyone. Edited December 15, 2023 by KoB2011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: And yet his TS% is 4th not he team and his ORtg is the worst on the team with guys over 20% usage that aren't named Payton Sparks (and perhaps the fact that Sparks has a usage that high should be discussed, too). You're correct he has a high assist rate, but he also has a high turnover rate and misses guys A LOT. He is a phenomenal interior passer, I don't think anyone disputes that, but he isn't willing to make the easy pass the majority of the time - kick outs, easy inbounds passes when we are getting pressured, etc. Malik has probably been our second best player this year, but he isn't playing anywhere close to his potential and we need him to. If we are looking for ways to improve this season, he probably has as much left in the tank for improvement as anyone. I voted for X in this poll. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 15, 2023 Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 to each their own. everyone vote for whoever you want, but i do like stats/numbers and when people vote for a guy who didn't play to make a point, in this case it will skew the final numbers a little right? don't you guys do a formula that will wind up giving X credit for finishing 2nd in this one and knock Malik down a little instead of being 2nd? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted December 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, NCHoosier32 said: to each their own. everyone vote for whoever you want, but i do like stats/numbers and when people vote for a guy who didn't play to make a point, in this case it will skew the final numbers a little right? don't you guys do a formula that will wind up giving X credit for finishing 2nd in this one and knock Malik down a little instead of being 2nd? Maybe @DWB can chime in on that... Personally, I'd give 2nd place to Malik for that game knowing X was a protest vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 10 hours ago, Reacher said: Maybe @DWB can chime in on that... Personally, I'd give 2nd place to Malik for that game knowing X was a protest vote. Already done. Before the first game, I stated that the vote tracking would only include guys that actually played. A protest vote is fine, but it will not count in the overall tally of the MVP final. Cupps won MVP, Malik is #2 for the Auburn game. (Same result using "weighted" voting, or total votes accumulated for the game.) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted December 16, 2023 Report Share Posted December 16, 2023 1 hour ago, DWB said: Already done. Before the first game, I stated that the vote tracking would only include guys that actually played. A protest vote is fine, but it will not count in the overall tally of the MVP final. Cupps won MVP, Malik is #2 for the Auburn game. (Same result using "weighted" voting, or total votes accumulated for the game.) like it. i'm still a little flabbergasted that Cupps was voted MVP of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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