NCHoosier32 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 4 hours ago, Kdug said: Mbagko isn’t on any of the latest draft boards I’ve seen. So he’d either have to finish the year very strong or transfer to be here just one year. he'll transfer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 I knew there would be some regression from last season with losing TJD and JHS and not addressing the back court adequately, but this is worse than I expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hippopotamo Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 8 minutes ago, BGleas said: Terrible. I traveled to the game @Kansas last year and against UConn at MSG. I’m done traveling to watch IU get blown out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 36 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: he'll transfer I really hope he doesn’t. Feels like he’s starting to grow into the scorer role. The portal makes it so hard to know what to expect year to year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 3 hours ago, BGleas said: None of that matters anymore except to make a point. The season is done. No tournament. Just a slog through the rest of these games to see what we decide to do in the next off-season. Yay Hoosiers. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euroclydon Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 They've lost their composure. Panic has set in and not one player has enough skill or leadership ability to get them through it. Apparently, the coaches can't either. All season IU has looked lost on defense. Leaving shooters as if by design. Rebounding seems optional most games. Don't understand how to get a good shot and frankly wouldn't hit one if they got one. I'd suggest simplify the game plan. Slow it down and focus on defense and rebounding. Play up and funnel everything to the 7'0 center. Make every game low scoring. ID the four guys you want to shoot the ball and where they can shoot it. Everyone else plays D, rebounds, passes and sets picks. If not, take a seat. The other option, start playing for next season, focus on MR, Ware and MM and hope one comes back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 (edited) What if Ware is done for the season and rests/preps for the draft? That wasn't the typical boot we see our guys wear. Granted he is is 7'. Maybe it was the only one that fit. Edited January 20 by NotIThatLives 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: What if Ware us done for the season and rests/preps for the draft? That wasn't the typical boot we see our guys wear. Granted he is is 7'. Maybe it was the only one that fit. This concern has crossed my mind. It wouldn’t be the most shocking thing to see guys shut it down and worry about their future once the season is out of reach. We’ve seen it before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KoB2011 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 3 minutes ago, BGleas said: I believe this is all the worst since Crean’s second season. And sans Crean’s first two seasons, the worst since before Bob Knight was coach. The product on the floor sucks. The team is dirty. This all sucks. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 10 hours ago, Kdug said: I really hope he doesn’t. Feels like he’s starting to grow into the scorer role. The portal makes it so hard to know what to expect year to year oh i agree. i just think he came in thinking one and done and told that was the goal and he isn't playing well enough. so he either tries to go and hope someone takes him on potential or likely blame the coaches/system and try it elsewhere. just my opinion and definitely hope i'm wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 37 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: What if Ware is done for the season and rests/preps for the draft? That wasn't the typical boot we see our guys wear. Granted he is is 7'. Maybe it was the only one that fit. man, i'll never stop watching, but that would make it even less fun and exciting! ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 55 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: What if Ware is done for the season and rests/preps for the draft? That wasn't the typical boot we see our guys wear. Granted he is is 7'. Maybe it was the only one that fit. 50 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: This concern has crossed my mind. It wouldn’t be the most shocking thing to see guys shut it down and worry about their future once the season is out of reach. We’ve seen it before. So it’s not just me who had this thought? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 I think it's a little early in the season for a guy like Ware to think about shutting it down. He would slide down draft boards, and as crazy and unrealistic as it sounds, there still is a path to making the tournament. Mid-to-late February maybe, but too early at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Does the staff not even look at data at all? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 8 minutes ago, BGleas said: Does the staff not even look at data at all? Either lazy or stupid. Or as someone mentioned in the comments. Must be a very serious promise made to NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVE EVE EVER, play Mbako at the 4. News flash. He can't and will never ever ever ever ever play the 3 at the next level either. He can't guard anyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 9 minutes ago, BGleas said: Does the staff not even look at data at all? That’s interesting because when I heard Ware might be out Walker made more sense to me than Sparks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Is it possible X has had some NIL deals canceled and is now mailing it in? His defensive effort is like a 4 compared to what he used to bring. He does look a step slower and obviously his head isn't right but the dude used to be maybe the best on ball defender in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGleas Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Inequality said: That’s interesting because when I heard Ware might be out Walker made more sense to me than Sparks Same. Seemed like a no-brainer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, KoB2011 said: I believe this is all the worst since Crean’s second season. And sans Crean’s first two seasons, the worst since before Bob Knight was coach. The product on the floor sucks. The team is dirty. This all sucks. I don't think we're dirty - I think we're just dumb. Gunn wasn't trying to hurt that guy. He didn't swing with any real force. The guy was f'ing with him, trying to get Gunn to do something stupid, and Gunn complied. X's I guess was dirty, but he thought he was doing the same thing the UW kid was doing - he was trying to goad their guy into reacting. He just wasn't smart enough to do it in a way that wouldn't get him in trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Us trying to figure out how to get through this season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 5 minutes ago, HoosierDom said: I don't think we're dirty - I think we're just dumb. Gunn wasn't trying to hurt that guy. He didn't swing with any real force. The guy was f'ing with him, trying to get Gunn to do something stupid, and Gunn complied. X's I guess was dirty, but he thought he was doing the same thing the UW kid was doing - he was trying to goad their guy into reacting. He just wasn't smart enough to do it in a way that wouldn't get him in trouble. I guess we can argue the semantics of dirty, but the fact is we’ve had three flagrant and two ejections the last four games. I am confident this board would loudly proclaim any other program dirty if that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWatShot Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 (edited) 35 minutes ago, BGleas said: Does the staff not even look at data at all? I'm not convinced they do. They would say they do if someone asked, but I'm not sure they care enough to try and understand any of it. If they did, they would realize we take too many shots just inside the arc and hit a low percentage of them, and would then address it by telling these guys to stop taking those shots. But they don't. Woodson is stuck in 1980 where 3's didn't exist and efficiency wasn't a thing yet. Edited January 20 by TheWatShot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDPU95 Posted January 20 Report Share Posted January 20 Not to diminish the coaching staff's responsibility for where things are but a huge part of this team's problem is the leadership within the players. IMO TJD, Race, and Kopp were all strong leaders and were constantly picking guys up or getting them focused in games. How many time did we witness Trayce getting on X for careless or bonehead plays? Who are the leaders on the team now? The expectation is that X is one of those if not the main one. Are we surprised with Gunn's elbow given who is "setting the tone" on the court? I so wanted X to have matured with his extended time off last year but that didn't happen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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