dgambill Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 On 10/13/2024 at 7:35 AM, Maedhros said: No, wrong class. We chose JHS, the guy you praised earlier, over Smith. Good call. Could we not have still recruited Smith and JHS? The fact we prioritized bringing back XJ imo cost us. Guards stayed away because we gave him the keys to the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 8 minutes ago, Victobmyboy said: I’m so over this one. He’s good but not a one and done like UConn is selling. Most of UConn guys aren’t one and done…it’s why they’ve been so good…guys coming back. I don’t think he believes he will be one and done either. He just knows he is going to play an offense tailored to his skill set and win a lot of games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 8 hours ago, dgambill said: Good call. Could we not have still recruited Smith and JHS? The fact we prioritized bringing back XJ imo cost us. Guards stayed away because we gave him the keys to the car. Mike Woodson was hired end of March in 2021. Smith committed to Purdue less than a month later and well before JHS committed. I don't fault the staff for trying to re-recruit their own roster (TJD, Race, etc) and hitting the portal within the first month over prioritizing a low level PG that didn't hold a single P5 offer....I say that even in hindsight. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 12 hours ago, DC2345 said: He’s going to choose UCONN just wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 9 hours ago, dgambill said: Good call. Could we not have still recruited Smith and JHS? The fact we prioritized bringing back XJ imo cost us. Guards stayed away because we gave him the keys to the car. Hindsight is 20/20. I do not recall a single person on this board that wanted Smith other than @btownqb. 8 months ago Everyone wanted to prioritize Sisley over Mullins because Sisley was the projected 5 star and Mullins was a 3. Then we say that that was wrong. The difference here is the Monday morning QB's get to change their mind after everything is said and done even 3 years later. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 1 minute ago, ledies22 said: Hindsight is 20/20. I do not recall a single person on this board that wanted Smith other than @btownqb. 8 months ago Everyone wanted to prioritize Sisley over Mullins because Sisley was the projected 5 star and Mullins was a 3. Then we say that that was wrong. The difference here is the Monday morning QB's get to change their mind after everything is said and done even 3 years later. Any complaints about not getting Smith should be sent to Archie Miller. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 9 hours ago, Victobmyboy said: I’m so over this one. He’s good but not a one and done like UConn is selling. Me too, like to have him, but we’ll survive. Things have changed and until we start winning big, we can’t take it for granted that top in-state talent will want to stay home and play for Hoosiers, so on to the portal, plus Rice and Carlyle could be back next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybergates Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 18 minutes ago, ledies22 said: Hindsight is 20/20. I do not recall a single person on this board that wanted Smith other than @btownqb. 8 months ago Everyone wanted to prioritize Sisley over Mullins because Sisley was the projected 5 star and Mullins was a 3. Then we say that that was wrong. The difference here is the Monday morning QB's get to change their mind after everything is said and done even 3 years later. I wanted Smith (live in Westfield and went to see him play after hearing he had unofficial visit or watched IU game w/ Archie) and I know @Billingsley99 wanted him too. Didn't feel like we were alone or only 3 of us. I was really bummed when Turdue got him, but realize/believe that if he chose IU he wouldn't have had remotely the same level of success he's had there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 30 minutes ago, ledies22 said: Hindsight is 20/20. I do not recall a single person on this board that wanted Smith other than @btownqb. 8 months ago Everyone wanted to prioritize Sisley over Mullins because Sisley was the projected 5 star and Mullins was a 3. Then we say that that was wrong. The difference here is the Monday morning QB's get to change their mind after everything is said and done even 3 years later. I wanted Smith at IU 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 (edited) 10 minutes ago, cybergates said: I wanted Smith (live in Westfield and went to see him play after hearing he had unofficial visit or watched IU game w/ Archie) and I know @Billingsley99 wanted him too. Didn't feel like we were alone or only 3 of us. I was really bummed when Turdue got him, but realize/believe that if he chose IU he wouldn't have had remotely the same level of success he's had there. Yes, that was a bit of an embellishment. I just remember that there were conversations about getting someone "better". He wasn't athletic enough, he didnt have enough stars, etc. Edited October 15 by ledies22 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 If we lose out on Mullins I hope Rice and Carlyle come back next year. If they do we still be solid in the back court. If Newton can get healthy and stay healthy then we will be even better. I think by next year Cupps will be a solid piece of the rotation. On the wings if Tucker comes back and Goode gets a 5th year we will he good there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: If we lose out on Mullins I hope Rice and Carlyle come back next year. If they do we still be solid in the back court. If Newton can get healthy and stay healthy then we will be even better. I think by next year Cupps will be a solid piece of the rotation. On the wings if Tucker comes back and Goode gets a 5th year we will he good there as well. Goode is not getting his 5th year so i wouldn’t hold out hope for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 This has been soooooo drawn out and is completely exhausting. I'm honestly more excited about portal player additions than I am about incoming freshmen. I would love to land these true freshmen but there are no guarantees of the impact they can bring from HS to college. I mean, look what Coach Woodson and Co. did with the portal in the offseason ..... Bryson Tucker - only true freshman Myles Rice - r/s -soph. Kanaan Carlyle - soph. Luke Goode - senior Oumar Ballo - r/s senior + and also, 4 other transfers to help add some practice and positional depth/backups..... Now, if this incredible group produces like he's envisioned, then we will have something really special this year. Just win. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Maybe we need more money. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 12 minutes ago, Inequality said: Maybe we need more money. maybe, but more than that, we just need to win games, be a force night in and night out with every game, get to the sweet 16 and beyond on regular basis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fkfootball Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 All of these recruits talk about Mike Woodson being honest. And I believe he is. What could be happening here is that Hurley is telling him what he wants to hear and Woodson told him what he needed to hear. Hurley doesn't seem like a stand up guy to me. He's just another shady ass New Jersey native. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 There was a huge Smith thread and he had a lot of backers. That was an Archie miscalculation though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Will have to figure out what 5 star will be available next spring for us to pick up. Woodson has been good or lucky in these recruitments so hopefully that will continue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 2 hours ago, Andrew said: Goode is not getting his 5th year so i wouldn’t hold out hope for that I've heard the exact opposite so I'd be curious if you know something. Other players played more games and were awarded an extra year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Robby Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Is anyone really surprised though? An NBA head coach does better in fast, portal type recruitments rather than drawn out ones? Until we have a new head coach, the portal will be the way for this staff (for the most part) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Was convinced watching Smith he was at worst quicker Jordy Hulls…. But I was also convinced Newton, Banks & Gunn were future starters at IU Player development & confidence are hard to predict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 5 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I've heard the exact opposite so I'd be curious if you know something. Other players played more games and were awarded an extra year. We have seen so many athletes getting a 6th and 7th year so Goode should be able to get a 5th year. If you only played 10 games and it shouldn't make a difference if it is the first 10 or the last 10. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Fkfootball said: All of these recruits talk about Mike Woodson being honest. And I believe he is. What could be happening here is that Hurley is telling him what he wants to hear and Woodson told him what he needed to hear. Hurley doesn't seem like a stand up guy to me. He's just another shady ass New Jersey native. Maybe that's a difference between HS and portal recruiting. HS kids are sold dreams and love hearing it. Portal guys experienced the overpromising and want the reality. Edited October 15 by ledies22 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyhoosier29 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 13 hours ago, Victobmyboy said: I’m so over this one. He’s good but not a one and done like UConn is selling. Let’s not pretend that this isn’t a huge miss / disappointment. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyResident16 Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 7 minutes ago, kyhoosier29 said: Let’s not pretend that this isn’t a huge miss / disappointment. Disappointing? Sure only because of the time and effort the staff put in. Huge miss? Hardly. I’d take a backcourt of 22-23 year old Carlyle and Rice over a 19 year old Mullins and Haralson. If Mullins is still in college after 2 years, Hurley’s 10 month plan for him had to have gone horribly wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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