5 championships Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, DC2345 said: Dolson has a plan and knows what he wants to do. Call me crazy but I think we have a shot at getting Stevens now since his kids are older and he finally won his ring with the Celtics. Only one more thing left to do and that’s come home to IU 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fkfootball Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago Cignetti likes production over ceiling. In basketball it's like landing 5 portal guys that avg 15 pts a game. And not 4 guys that avg 5 pts a game but could one day avg 20. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fkfootball Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 10 minutes ago, 5 championships said: Call me crazy but I think we have a shot at getting Stevens now since his kids are older and he finally won his ring with the Celtics. Only one more thing left to do and that’s come home to IU I'd say that ship is sailed. The search should start and end with Micah Shrewsberry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danomatic Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 9 minutes ago, 5 championships said: Call me crazy but I think we have a shot at getting Stevens now since his kids are older and he finally won his ring with the Celtics. Only one more thing left to do and that’s come home to IU I don’t see it. Primarily because he literally has no interest in going back to coaching or college, according to those who know him. Other than taking more time away from his wife/family… nothing to gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, DC2345 said: That's if nobody enters the portal or decides to go pro and hope to be a second round pick. They'll also lose Hatton, Leal, and James. I get they'll have varying roles but that's still bench depth that needs to be replaced. Don’t forget scholarships go to 15 next year instead of 13 too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObjectiveIUFan Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, DC2345 said: I've heard the story and it's much more complicated as to why he gave in to hiring Woodson. Now this is the story I'd love to hear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 minute ago, IUfaninIllinois said: Don’t forget scholarships go to 15 next year instead of 13 too Another thing I haven’t seen mentioned, but there will no longer be the Covid seniors in the portal. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUfaninIllinois Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, DC2345 said: Woodson says a lot of stuff publicly that he has almost zero control of. Keep that in mind. He has enough control with QB in his back pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago Death, taxes, and Woodson missing out on highly rated recruits in the fall..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Danomatic said: I don’t see it. Primarily because he literally has no interest in going back to coaching or college, according to those who know him. Other than taking more time away from his wife/family… nothing to gain. I can't see him wanting any part of the current college bball landscape 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, OGIUAndy said: Personally I just don't really see the difference. HS kids can leave after a year just like anyone else. If you think the drawn out recruiting process somehow vets the personality of the kid or his ability, I suppose that would be the benefit. But what's really the difference between recruiting a high school kid (one and done? two and done?) versus recruiting a sophomore, junior or senior who may or may not play one, two, three years four years? I really don't fundamentally see why it matters unless you are literally replacing the entire roster every year. I really think the best approach is getting a couple of high school kids and then using the portal. The best players still come out of HS, that's why. You aren't generally getting top tier athletes and great players coming from a good environment in the portal. We did do a good job of stealing players from teams whose athletic conference imploded last year, I don't know if that is a model you can count on though. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDB Posted 7 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Fkfootball said: I'd say that ship is sailed. The search should start and end with Micah Shrewsberry. Aim higher than Shrewsberry. Whenever Woody's time is up we need to go PAY a WINNER. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdug Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said: The best players still come out of HS, that's why. You aren't generally getting top tier athletes and great players coming from a good environment in the portal. We did do a good job of stealing players from teams whose athletic conference imploded last year, I don't know if that is a model you can count on though. That’s simply not true. 2 of the 5 consensus 1st team all Americans and 3 of the 5 consensus 2nd team all Americans last year were transfers. It was literally a 50-50 split in terms of transfers vs guys at the same school they started at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 31 minutes ago, ObjectiveIUFan said: Now this is the story I'd love to hear... It's been mentioned many times that Woody was not Dolson's choice and that he was basically forced to hire him by the board including Buckner and others and that part of his hiring had to include Matta and Fife etc. But the Woody stuff is a well beaten, ripped to shreds, dead horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 55 minutes ago, 5 championships said: Call me crazy but I think we have a shot at getting Stevens now since his kids are older and he finally won his ring with the Celtics. Only one more thing left to do and that’s come home to IU I will neither confirm nor deny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 28 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: I can't see him wanting any part of the current college bball landscape You’d be surprised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 38 minutes ago, IUfaninIllinois said: He has enough control with QB in his back pocket. Buckner is on the way out and everyone knows it 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Fkfootball said: I'd say that ship is sailed. The search should start and end with Micah Shrewsberry. Dolson is aiming much higher than Shrews 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athleticdeptiugrad Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, 5 championships said: Call me crazy but I think we have a shot at getting Stevens now since his kids are older and he finally won his ring with the Celtics. Only one more thing left to do and that’s come home to IU You aren't crazy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 41 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: I can't see him wanting any part of the current college bball landscape Eventually all the real college coaches will be gone and we will have AAU type coaches coaching in college Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 11 minutes ago, athleticdeptiugrad said: You aren't crazy. I’m glad somebody else said it besides me for once lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 9 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Eventually all the real college coaches will be gone and we will have AAU type coaches coaching in college Thats not going to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted 6 hours ago Report Share Posted 6 hours ago 52 minutes ago, Kdug said: That’s simply not true. 2 of the 5 consensus 1st team all Americans and 3 of the 5 consensus 2nd team all Americans last year were transfers. It was literally a 50-50 split in terms of transfers vs guys at the same school they started at. The best players are still found in HS. They play for a year (maybe two) and then go to the NBA. You can of course still find good players in the portal, but focusing so exclusively on the portal ensures that you are cutting yourself off from a portion of what I would label the best players. Even if you disagree with that, you yourself are saying you cut yourself off from at least half of the best players. It is a stupid approach. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 25 minutes ago, DC2345 said: I’m glad somebody else said it besides me for once lol Dream scenario is we do well this season, woody retires, and we get Stevens. If that were to happen I’m not sure what I’d do lol 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted 5 hours ago Report Share Posted 5 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Andrew said: Dream scenario is we do well this season, woody retires, and we get Stevens. If that were to happen I’m not sure what I’d do lol 🤫 they’ll say you’re crazy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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