dgambill Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 5 hours ago, HoosierFaithful said: Yeah, that’s exactly what I said… I would love to land these kids. If we can’t it’s not the end of the world. It’s a new era. If we can’t….do we have the right staff?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUCrazy2 Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 6 hours ago, HoosierFaithful said: Yeah, that’s exactly what I said… I would love to land these kids. If we can’t it’s not the end of the world. It’s a new era. It isn't the end of the world. There is a reason that I haven't paid much attention to this. You can get by dragging people out of the portal with a bag of cash. That is true, BUT, there are issues with the portal over development too. What all of this amounts to is some pre-cope if Mullins goes elsewhere. "We don't need HS players anyway, we'll just get a portal player...." Yeah, but the two time defending champ coach is busy filling up on HS kids right now, so maybe that should give some pause.... At the end of the day, Woodson's lack of ability to actually recruit to this point makes him really easily replaceable if he doesn't start winning big. I could recruit in the portal with 2 or 3 billionaires bankrolling me. And if that is the case, so could any other coach on the planet. Woodson's approach puts all the focus on Wins and Losses. All of it. He better win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 IU high school recruiting has been in the tank ever since we missed out on Moses Abraham. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 I remember a few months back when it was "everybody's leaving" and "nobody will come here." Ah, the good old days 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 Haven't we landed a high school all American two off seasons in a row with Mgbako and Tucker Wasn't JHS and Malik very highly rated recruits? Wasn't Gabe a top 100 player? Didn't Sisley just commit? Maybe it's not what some people want. But those tje claim that Woodson has shown a total lack of ability to recruit just doesn't hold water. Maybe he doesn't land enough recruits, maybe not the recruits some people want. But he has absolutely landed some highly ranked HS players. So the "total inability to recruit" is just nuts and agenda driven. And I am not a Woodson apologist by any stretch. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 4 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Haven't we landed a high school all American two off seasons in a row with Mgbako and Tucker Wasn't JHS and Malik very highly rated recruits? Wasn't Gabe a top 100 player? Didn't Sisley just commit? Maybe it's not what some people want. But those tje claim that Woodson has shown a total lack of ability to recruit just doesn't hold water. Maybe he doesn't land enough recruits, maybe not the recruits some people want. But he has absolutely landed some highly ranked HS players. So the "total inability to recruit" is just nuts and agenda driven. And I am not a Woodson apologist by any stretch. You left the period off your first sentence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 Just now, 5fouls said: You left the period off your first sentence. My typing is so god awful. I proof read and edited that damn post 6 times! 😂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: IU high school recruiting has been in the tank ever since we missed out on Moses Abraham. Can we get this thread over 100pages? Where’s the candles? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 23 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Haven't we landed a high school all American two off seasons in a row with Mgbako and Tucker Wasn't JHS and Malik very highly rated recruits? Wasn't Gabe a top 100 player? Didn't Sisley just commit? Maybe it's not what some people want. But those tje claim that Woodson has shown a total lack of ability to recruit just doesn't hold water. Maybe he doesn't land enough recruits, maybe not the recruits some people want. But he has absolutely landed some highly ranked HS players. So the "total inability to recruit" is just nuts and agenda driven. And I am not a Woodson apologist by any stretch. Shhhhhhhh...please don't bring up guys like Mgbako and Tucker. Being 5 star guys from out of state they don't count. On a side note it seems the Anti-Woodson Club is reinforcing their position early this year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, bluegrassIU said: Haven't we landed a high school all American two off seasons in a row with Mgbako and Tucker Wasn't JHS and Malik very highly rated recruits? Wasn't Gabe a top 100 player? Didn't Sisley just commit? Maybe it's not what some people want. But those tje claim that Woodson has shown a total lack of ability to recruit just doesn't hold water. Maybe he doesn't land enough recruits, maybe not the recruits some people want. But he has absolutely landed some highly ranked HS players. So the "total inability to recruit" is just nuts and agenda driven. And I am not a Woodson apologist by any stretch. I find it funny that we didn't see any of the Woodson's haters during the spring and summer when we were getting all the transfers in. They weren't here when Tucker committed or when a lot of the players decided to come back. They come out the first sign of a problem Edited October 12 by IU Scott 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 21 hours ago, ledies22 said: i mean are we just here to complain about everything, if we are complaining about the manner in which money is spent in recruiting. Not how much, but literally how the money is spent. why not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fkfootball Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 We can survive not landing Mullins. But it's a 🚩 when you can't land players like this in your home state especially when you offered him a lot of $$. Im shocked that if not IU, he didn't look at Purdue? I mean we can all agree that Painter knows how to use a guy like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 27 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I find it funny that we didn't see any of the Woodson's haters during the spring and summer when we were getting all the transfers in. They weren't here when Tucker committed or when a lot of the players decided to come back. They come out the first sign of a problem Meh, I don't know. We have Woodson supporters. We have Woodson detractors. We have some still in the "wait and see" position. But most all of all sides are long term posters who are here year round as part of this board. It's just that, as is typical in today's society, people are locked in and adamant they are right and have zero ability to realize the other side may have good points as well. But we have a small small handful that just jump on here when the timing is convenient. Most are respected posters with strong opinions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 8 minutes ago, Fkfootball said: Im shocked that if not IU, he didn't look at Purdue? Purdue's NIL game is weak (despite what some of their posters say) and there probably aren't many minutes available next year with Loyer, Smith, Colvin, Harris, and Cox... Or maybe he just got a look at West Lafayette... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 10 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Meh, I don't know. We have Woodson supporters. We have Woodson detractors. We have some still in the "wait and see" position. But most all of all sides are long term posters who are here year round as part of this board. It's just that, as is typical in today's society, people are locked in and adamant they are right and have zero ability to realize the other side may have good points as well. But we have a small small handful that just jump on here when the timing is convenient. Most are respected posters with strong opinions. I’m in the “wait and see” with doubts that it will change. I really like the roster he has built this spring. We are loaded. I’m just not confident he will change the style of play to get us where we want to go and style of play is a big reason in my opinion on why we might miss on Mullins. Lots of national media have the same opinion from what ive listened to. Love the roaster not sure about Woody ability to get it done. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 40 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I find it funny that we didn't see any of the Woodson's haters during the spring and summer when we were getting all the transfers in. They weren't here when Tucker committed or when a lot of the players decided to come back. They come out the first sign of a problem shall I pull up old game threads or maybe some post game threads? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 Also all recruits are not created equal. When you potentially miss on a 5 star kid in your half of the state with a skill set that we desperately need. That not great optics to the fan base especially with everything IU has to offer a player outside of coaching. 2nd 5 star from the state this year to potentially say no and this one is real close to home. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 (edited) The problem with pretending it doesn’t matter is Woody’s own actions and use of resources say otherwise. He recruited Haralson and Mullins for four years and expended a lot of resources in doing so. I could write 5000 words on why we need to get high school recruits and I’m sure Scott Dolson sees it that way too. I am not now, and never will be, in the camp to rah rah my way out of every piece of adversity. Permissive mindsets don’t serve the program well. But Mullins to IU is still logical to me. Edited October 12 by BobSaccamanno 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 (edited) 2 hours ago, bluegrassIU said: Haven't we landed a high school all American two off seasons in a row with Mgbako and Tucker Wasn't JHS and Malik very highly rated recruits? Wasn't Gabe a top 100 player? Didn't Sisley just commit? Maybe it's not what some people want. But those tje claim that Woodson has shown a total lack of ability to recruit just doesn't hold water. Maybe he doesn't land enough recruits, maybe not the recruits some people want. But he has absolutely landed some highly ranked HS players. So the "total inability to recruit" is just nuts and agenda driven. And I am not a Woodson apologist by any stretch. I will add though, that CMW said that they weren’t recruiting Mgbako or Tucker. Both fell into their laps. I don’t know how often you can rely on that. Edited October 12 by 13th&Jackson 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobSaccamanno Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 Regardless of what anyone thinks of Woody, it doesn’t matter either way, we need to have a good year and land some quality recruits for the trajectory of the program. Coming off a season with no big wins, being humiliated on several occasions, and being the 110th ranked team at a place with the built in advantages IU has, we need to flip the script. This isn’t a pro sport where tanking does anything. We need success on the court and in recruiting to prove that we are capable. If we leave the cupboard bare, it’s like quick sand and it will be harder to get the right leadership in here. Quinn Buckner and Steve Ferguson are aging and we will not be trapped forever. The roster looks like a Vega$ Tarkanian team as opposed to the 1993 Hoosiers. But there are good players and they can make the Final Four with that roster. We need it for the sake and trajectory of the program. There’s no team that has underachieved with more resources and advantages than Indiana basketball and we’ve got to flip that once and for all. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 2 hours ago, IUFLA said: I remember a few months back when it was "everybody's leaving" and "nobody will come here." Ah, the good old days I guess CMW got busy with retainment bonuses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 12 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: I will add though, that CMW said that they weren’t recruiting Mgbako or Tucker. Both fell into their laps. I don’t know how often you can rely on that. I guess you’d have to say Bates and Reneau fell in his lap, too. Throw in the transfers whom I assume we weren’t recruiting for long either and all of a sudden I’m going to go ahead and say we can rely on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 21 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: I will add though, that CMW said that they weren’t recruiting Mgbako or Tucker. Both fell into their laps. I don’t know how often you can rely on that. Fair point for sure however I would say when they became available the first person they called was our Coach. That has to account for something i.e. those players families knows Woodson knows the game and has played/coached at the highest level for his entire life. PS on a side note. I blame the Lakers in all of this. If they could have manned up we wouldn't be worried about UConn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 20 minutes ago, 13th&Jackson said: I will add though, that CMW said that they weren’t recruiting Mgbako or Tucker. Both fell into their laps. I don’t know how often you can rely on that. Brian Bowen “fell” into Pitino’s lap at UL It happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted October 12 Report Share Posted October 12 Tucker said in one of his interviews that Woody had recruited him and it was definitely between Overtime Elite and Indiana... When OTE pitched in the towel, it was a one horse race... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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