SawatchHoosier Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 Nebraska is the last undefeated team in the big ten. Just as well all predicted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 @Stlboiler23 I won’t reply. Not interested in arguing, but I am truly curious what skill set Zach E.T. has that would still make him good if he was a 6’9” center. He has no lateral quickness, no athleticism. His only post move is a drop step. Otherwise he gets in position and shoots it over people or dunks by jumping 2”. Can’t guard. Without his body weight he isn’t strong enough to bully ball. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 14 minutes ago, ledies22 said: @Stlboiler23 I won’t reply. Not interested in arguing, but I am truly curious what skill set Zach E.T. has that would still make him good if he was a 6’9” center. He has no lateral quickness, no athleticism. His only post move is a drop step. Otherwise he gets in position and shoots it over people or dunks by jumping 2”. Can’t guard. Without his body weight he isn’t strong enough to bully ball. Saying he has no athleticism is laughable. What’s with these random hypotheticals and why do they even matter? A lot of basketball players would be a lot worse if they were 7 inches shorter lol. You think TJD at 6’2 would be effective? Sure he’d still be athletic but a 6’2 guy who can’t shoot can only take you so far. What other post move does Edey need? He’s clearly effective at what he does so why change anything? He has great shooting touch (evidenced by his FT percentage), solid footwork, and is pretty mobile for a guy that size. It’s a silly argument IMO. How good would Reneau at 6’0 be? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Saying he has no athleticism is laughable. What’s with these random hypotheticals and why do they even matter? A lot of basketball players would be a lot worse if they were 7 inches shorter lol. You think TJD at 6’2 would be effective? Sure he’d still be athletic but a 6’2 guy who can’t shoot can only take you so far. What other post move does Edey need? He’s clearly effective at what he does so why change anything? He has great shooting touch (evidenced by his FT percentage), solid footwork, and is pretty mobile for a guy that size. It’s a silly argument IMO. How good would Reneau at 6’0 be? Your hypotheticals are even more ridiculous. There are very few 7'4" people out there. Hypothetically if Edey was 6'9" he would likely play the same position. Your hypotheticals would put guys in a different position. With that out of the way, his height and also his bodyweight give him quite and advantage. It's the thing that makes him effective, it's undeniable. I don't anyone is saying he's a bad player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Saying he has no athleticism is laughable. What’s with these random hypotheticals and why do they even matter? A lot of basketball players would be a lot worse if they were 7 inches shorter lol. You think TJD at 6’2 would be effective? Sure he’d still be athletic but a 6’2 guy who can’t shoot can only take you so far. What other post move does Edey need? He’s clearly effective at what he does so why change anything? He has great shooting touch (evidenced by his FT percentage), solid footwork, and is pretty mobile for a guy that size. It’s a silly argument IMO. How good would Reneau at 6’0 be? Your reply is disingenuous. TJD is undersized for a 5 but excels at that role and is an outstanding athlete. If Edey were the same height as TJD, or even your average 5, he would be a bench player at best. Edey is an outstanding college player, but you, and every Purdue fan, are lying to yourselves if you think that has anything to do with anything other than his absolutely gargantuan size and perhaps his effort and work ethic. He’s a great college athlete, but let’s not confuse that with “athleticism.” 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted December 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, rogue3542 said: If Edey were the same height as TJD, or even your average 5, he would be a bench player at best. He'd be the Swanton-Rodger kid that did mop up duty for Maryland last night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 11 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Takes the pressure off! Good to see you have a sense of humor! Hoosier fans? OMG, this board would explode, almost like Armageddon!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, rogue3542 said: Your reply is disingenuous. TJD is undersized for a 5 but excels at that role and is an outstanding athlete. If Edey were the same height as TJD, or even your average 5, he would be a bench player at best. Edey is an outstanding college player, but you, and every Purdue fan, are lying to yourselves if you think that has anything to do with anything other than his absolutely gargantuan size and perhaps his effort and work ethic. He’s a great college athlete, but let’s not confuse that with “athleticism.” No less disingenuous than the original post IMO. You’re not wrong about TJD either it’s just silly to say hey if this player was 7 inches shorter he wouldn’t be as dominant. Is it more true with Edey than TJD? Sure but it’s still a silly hypothetical lol. And I agree about Edey being a great college athlete. And it’s false to say he has zero athleticism. The dude played hockey for a long time lol. Edited December 2, 2023 by Stlboiler23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said: Good to see you have a sense of humor! Hoosier fans? OMG, this board would explode, almost like Armageddon!! Me in my mid-20’s would’ve been a wreck but now? Meh it’s a basketball game haha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 15 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: Your hypotheticals are even more ridiculous. There are very few 7'4" people out there. Hypothetically if Edey was 6'9" he would likely play the same position. Your hypotheticals would put guys in a different position. With that out of the way, his height and also his bodyweight give him quite and advantage. It's the thing that makes him effective, it's undeniable. I don't anyone is saying he's a bad player. I know they were I was trying to be as ridiculous as the original post about it. I’m not denying his height/weight give him quite the advantage. But for the “he’s just tall” folks, there are other guys his size that play college basketball who average a lot worse than him. Its a combination of size, skill, and work ethic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: No less disingenuous than the original post IMO. You’re not wrong about TJD either it’s just silly to say hey if this player was 7 inches shorter he wouldn’t be as dominant. Is it more true with Edey than TJD? Sure but it’s still a silly hypothetical lol. And I agree about Edey being a great college athlete. And it’s false to say he has zero athleticism. The dude played hockey for a long time lol. Because he played hockey, he has elite athleticism? I never said he had zero, but I’m sorry, it’s not any more than your average amateur athlete. Again, you’re confusing what athleticism is imo. Give us a list of 7’4” 305lb college basketball players if you think there’s so many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, rogue3542 said: Because he played hockey, he has elite athleticism? I never said he had zero, but I’m sorry, it’s not any more than your average amateur athlete. Again, you’re confusing what athleticism is imo. Give us a list of 7’4” 305lb college basketball players if you think there’s so many. I agree he’s an average athlete. The original premise was he had zero athleticism. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4897696/jamarion-sharp https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4397052/connor-vanover https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4897004/naheem-mcleod https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4433216/mabor-majak https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4432858/matt-van-komen https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5106724/rocco-muratori https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5105857/will-berg Edited December 2, 2023 by Stlboiler23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 He's just athletic enough to not be a stiff. Being huge is his greatest skill. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, go_iu_bb said: He's just athletic enough to not be a stiff. Being huge is his greatest skill. I’d agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: I agree he’s an average athlete. The original premise was he had zero athleticism. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4897696/jamarion-sharp https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4397052/connor-vanover https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4897004/naheem-mcleod https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/stats/_/id/4433216/mabor-majak https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4432858/matt-van-komen https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5106724/rocco-muratori https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/5105857/will-berg Not a single one comes close to Edey in height and weight. Most of those guys are twigs; Edey has around 70 pounds on over half that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierFaithful Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 What a weird hypothetical. Of course if a tall player was shorter, they’d be worse. It would also follow logic that they might be… more athletic. Edey looks comparatively stiff because he’s so big. It’s a feature, not a bug. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 12 hours ago, Stlboiler23 said: Boo Buie needs to get the hell out of college lol. Dude can rent a car I think! 4 hours ago, Reacher said: He is a special player ...but a classless punk. Lucky he didn't get a tech at the end of the O/T for running down and woofing at the Turdue bench. Your 5th year senior needs to be a lot more mature than that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdgenhoosier Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 Man is this what this thread is going to be like all season? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 Wisconsin looking solid.in the 1st half vs Marquette. And not to downplay how well Wisconsin has played in the 1st half, but wow... Marquette us massively overrated at #3. 15-25, maybe. #3? Just no no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Wisconsin looking solid.in the 1st half vs Marquette. And not to downplay how well Wisconsin has played in the 1st half, but wow... Marquette us massively overrated at #3. 15-25, maybe. #3? Just no no no. Or maybe the B10 isn’t as bad this year as most of the “experts” think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo123 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Or maybe the B10 isn’t as bad this year as most of the “experts” think. Loved seeing Hummel lost for words and criticism! He just could not find away to find the kind of criticism he dished out for the Hoosiers for old PU STINKS LIKE SHIT! Amazing how many Purdue pukes are on the Big Network. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlboiler23 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 minute ago, jojo123 said: Loved seeing Hummel lost for words and criticism! He just could not find away to find the kind of criticism he dished out for the Hoosiers for old PU STINKS LIKE SHIT! Amazing how many Purdue pukes are on the Big Network. Why? Because they’re talented? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 2-7 Bucknell beats PSU 76-67 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 27 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Or maybe the B10 isn’t as bad this year as most of the “experts” think. 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: 2-7 Bucknell beats PSU 76-67 🤔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted December 2, 2023 Report Share Posted December 2, 2023 39 minutes ago, jojo123 said: Loved seeing Hummel lost for words and criticism! He just could not find away to find the kind of criticism he dished out for the Hoosiers for old PU STINKS LIKE SHIT! Amazing how many Purdue pukes are on the Big Network. Why? 38 minutes ago, Stlboiler23 said: Because they’re talented? ...because they can't play for money. 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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