IUFLA Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Iufla shows guys who made historic leaps, not really fair. What you showed is progress. I am not disputing progress. What that also shows me is our need for a dude that can attack. .8 free throws a game for a guy that shoots 92% from the line. Come on, get downhill, to the bucket and initiate contact. I know what Gunn was this year, maybe he doesn't leap Bates but the ceiling is still higher over the long run. Those kinds of leaps happen to a lot of kids every year... It's simply a product of mental and physical maturity, and opportunity... This year alone look at early career numbers of Boo Buie, Kobe Brown, Bryce Hopkins, Wade Taylor, Colby Jones, compared to their first season or 2... It's not a rarity... It's development... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parakeet Jones Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Would it be valuable to start a second transfer portal thread? We could have this one for all portal news and maybe one dedicated to guys in the portal we have been confirmed to have reached out to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Those kinds of leaps happen to a lot of kids every year... It's simply a product of mental and physical maturity, and opportunity... This year alone look at early career numbers of Boo Buie, Kobe Brown, Bryce Hopkins, Wade Taylor, Colby Jones, compared to their first season or 2... It's not a rarity... It's development... Buie has avg 10, 10 14, 17. Progress as expected. Brown 6, 8 12, 15. Progress. Hopkins, lost in the sea of talent, transfers to be the man. Jones, 8, 12, 15. Progress. You cherry picked 2 guys that became 1st rounders. I acknowledged progress. Do you see Bates or Galloway avg around 15-17 next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 51 minutes ago, Drroogh said: When did he skip his junior year? This is his junior year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 31 minutes ago, HoosierDPU95 said: Not to mention that our offensive "philosophy" will be very different next year (i.e. it won't all flow through TJD). Woody spoke of guys "playing their roles" a lot when asked about specific players this year. Player's roles will change next year in addition to their development. System philosophy is a big part of the needs discussion. CMW runs a pro type system as I understand it. You don’t just get long athletic players and roll the ball out! I doubt there will be any immediate impact players as they will need to learn the system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: This is his junior year I do believe we are still playing this season not next? Looking at the scholarship grid 23-24 will be his junior year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Robby Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Saw the transfer portal was "hot" and thought, hey, wonder what's going on? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Drroogh said: I do believe we are still playing this season not next? Looking at the scholarship grid 23-24 will be his junior year. This is his third year playing college basketball. Hard to call that something other than his junior year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Drroogh said: I do believe we are still playing this season not next? Looking at the scholarship grid 23-24 will be his junior year. This is his third year playing, he will get a COVID 5th year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ledies22 Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Drroogh said: I do believe we are still playing this season not next? Looking at the scholarship grid 23-24 will be his junior year. Just now, HoosierDom said: This is his third year playing college basketball. Hard to call that something other than his junior year. he has an extra year (covid year) of eligibility if he chooses. I think his class is the last class for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, NotIThatLives said: Iufla shows guys who made historic leaps, not really fair. What you showed is progress. I am not disputing progress. What that also shows me is our need for a dude that can attack. .8 free throws a game for a guy that shoots 92% from the line. Come on, get downhill, to the bucket and initiate contact. I know what Gunn was this year, maybe he doesn't leap Bates but the ceiling is still higher over the long run. Well.. he isn't going to get mins based on his ceiling, thankfully. More of an open post will help all of our guards get to the FT line, more. XJ+Cupps are better to quite a bit better passers that JHS is... that will matter as well. Malik, as a FR/SO is absolutely a better passer than TJD... I pray to god whoever we get as our 4 is a better passer than Race.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Buie has avg 10, 10 14, 17. Progress as expected. Brown 6, 8 12, 15. Progress. Hopkins, lost in the sea of talent, transfers to be the man. Jones, 8, 12, 15. Progress. You cherry picked 2 guys that became 1st rounders. I acknowledged progress. Do you see Bates or Galloway avg around 15-17 next year? I see Bates and TG both avg 10p. XJ 12-13. Malik 11-13..... find a 4 that fits and boom. Lots of balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: Well.. he isn't going to get mins based on his ceiling, thankfully. More of an open post will help all of our guards get to the FT line, more. XJ+Cupps are better to quite a bit better passers that JHS is... that will matter as well. Malik, as a FR/SO is absolutely a better passer than TJD... I pray to god whoever we get as our 4 is a better passer than Race.... I don't see Malik being a better passer than TJD is this year, maybe when TJD was a freshman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I don't see Malik being a better passer than TJD is this year, maybe when TJD was a freshman. Sorry... forgot to add "TJD as a FR" ................. Edited March 15, 2023 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drroogh Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 9 minutes ago, IU Scott said: This is his third year playing, he will get a COVID 5th year My old age foibles showing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, btownqb said: Well.. he isn't going to get mins based on his ceiling, thankfully. More of an open post will help all of our guards get to the FT line, more. XJ+Cupps are better to quite a bit better passers that JHS is... that will matter as well. Malik, as a FR/SO is absolutely a better passer than TJD... I pray to god whoever we get as our 4 is a better passer than Race.... I just know we need some wing scoring. If the 4 is a wing then OK I don't know if I should laugh or cry. We are all going to have nightmares of race shooting free throws and passing the ball in late game situations for months to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, Parakeet Jones said: Would it be valuable to start a second transfer portal thread? We could have this one for all portal news and maybe one dedicated to guys in the portal we have been confirmed to have reached out to. Hell, just pick any thread already out there, maybe one from back in 2018, and start talking about the portal. Most wont even notice, and those that do will still join in the conversation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: Buie has avg 10, 10 14, 17. Progress as expected. Brown 6, 8 12, 15. Progress. Hopkins, lost in the sea of talent, transfers to be the man. Jones, 8, 12, 15. Progress. You cherry picked 2 guys that became 1st rounders. I acknowledged progress. Do you see Bates or Galloway avg around 15-17 next year? I was simply outlining what can happen. The 3 I cited had to have their opportunity, particularly Kris Murray. I'd say Bates is more likely to over Galloway, but who knows. We have 60% of our FGAs leaving next year... Someone is going to get those shots. As I've said before, I think Tamar is going to be a big part of what we do next year... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 21 minutes ago, btownqb said: I see Bates and TG both avg 10p. XJ 12-13. Malik 11-13..... find a 4 that fits and boom. Lots of balance. We'd all love to see X of the last 10 games of last year when he went on a tear averaging 16.6 and 6.8 ast a game. Man he was locked in. I take back what I said earlier, looks like he was avg around 32-33 mins a game during that rip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 15 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I was simply outlining what can happen. The 3 I cited had to have their opportunity, particularly Kris Murray. I'd say Bates is more likely to over Galloway, but who knows. We have 60% of our FGAs leaving next year... Someone is going to get those shots. As I've said before, I think Tamar is going to be a big part of what we do next year... I hope and with reasonable progress along with the opportunity both could see a 3-4 point jump in pts/game. That's a far cry from a guy that can go get buckets though. The bright side is X can get to the rim and draw fouls with the best of them, so lo.g as he plays smart. Malik is a baby hook waiting to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: We'd all love to see X of the last 10 games of last year when he went on a tear averaging 16.6 and 6.8 ast a game. Man he was locked in. I take back what I said earlier, looks like he was avg around 32-33 mins a game during that rip. XJ as a 24yr old 6th year SR next year is going to have a LOT of experience.... 13p 5a 4r career avgs is pretty good, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: XJ as a 24yr old 6th year SR next year is going to have a LOT of experience.... 13p 5a 4r career avgs is pretty good, man. I like it a lot. I would have liked him 100% healthy this year but it's a solid foundation for next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, NotIThatLives said: I like it a lot. I would have liked him 100% healthy this year but it's a solid foundation for next year. I think it's wing by committee next year.... but, if you get the right 4 man, those two will be your 4th and 5th best starters, and will be fine in those roles. Also... as well coached as we are, I'm just not that worried about man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler Sam Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 18 hours ago, Euroclydon said: The NCAA needs to tighten up how the portal works. For one, the timeframe/windows for declaring should not be so long. I believe Justin Smith entered the portal in the mid-May window when he left. Hard to put a team together when you have no idea who's staying and who's going in May. Not really. A guy jumps in the portal, he is voluntarily giving up his scholarship, and Woody could give it to someone else that afternoon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted March 15, 2023 Report Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Parakeet Jones said: Would it be valuable to start a second transfer portal thread? We could have this one for all portal news and maybe one dedicated to guys in the portal we have been confirmed to have reached out to. Yes. I think we can just have a thread that is a collection of additions to the portal... then a seperate thread to discuss? Idk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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