IUFLA Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 32 minutes ago, btownqb said: No. It was a fluke it worked last time. I was more going by the 2 10 second calls it cost us...With our short guard rotation I thought maybe Underwood might take a shot or 2... 17 minutes ago, btownqb said: TJD got dunked on by Mayer? The dunk Mayer get at 1630 is a transition defense. There wasn't another dunk in the 2nd. I've watched the 2nd half 3 times now... Trey does fine on Mayer, but Miller was fine the whole day.. he just got 3 fouls really early in the 2nd half, so they used Trey. Regardless.. defense isn't a one on one concept. It's a team concept. I rewatched too, and you're spot on...Miller ducked under a couple of screens in the first that maybe he shouldn't have (and Hummel even said something about it) but other than that, he was solid...And his steal at the end was huge... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 26 minutes ago, btownqb said: TJD got dunked on by Mayer? The dunk Mayer get at 1630 is a transition defense. There wasn't another dunk in the 2nd. I've watched the 2nd half 3 times now... Trey does fine on Mayer, but Miller was fine the whole day.. he just got 3 fouls really early in the 2nd half, so they used Trey. Regardless.. defense isn't a one on one concept. It's a team concept. No shit....go watch a 4th time. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I was more going by the 2 10 second calls it cost us...With our short guard rotation I thought maybe Underwood might take a shot or 2... I rewatched too, and you're spot on...Miller ducked under a couple of screens in the first that maybe he shouldn't have (and Hummel even said something about it) but other than that, he was solid...And his steal at the end was huge... I think he had two didnt he? The one TJD threw of Epps, MK originally tipped, as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Indykev said: No shit....go watch a 4th time. Why would I need to do that? https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/playbyplay/_/gameId/401484959 This can help. Edited February 19, 2023 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: Why would I need to do that? Kopp leaving goode for 3 in the corner, Kopp fouling Mayer shooting a 3, Kopp leaving his man on the last shot leaving him wide open from 3. Nice steal though. Went back and listened to the radio call. ES praising Woodson for moving Kopp off Mayer for Galloway, saved the game. But you're right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Indykev said: Kopp leaving goode for 3 in the corner, Kopp fouling Mayer shooting a 3, Kopp leaving his man on the last shot leaving him wide open from 3. Nice steal though. Went back and listened to the radio call. ES praising Woodson for moving Kopp off Mayer for Galloway, saved the game. But you're right. What exactly do you think I'm arguing here? Geeesh man. All I pointed out was what happened in the 2nd half? Kopp didn't foul Mayer, but sure. I'm right, about what? I haven't argued anything. Edited February 19, 2023 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceDouglas Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 13 hours ago, IUFLA said: Was anybody else shocked that beyond the last IU possession, Illinois NEVER pressed us full court? I was hoping for some full court pressure. Possibly with TSJ out, Rodgers and Melendez under the weather and Goode still getting back in game shape they felt they didn't have enough bodies to do that. And also Illinois had the lead for the majority of the game so not really much need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, BruceDouglas said: I was hoping for some full court pressure. Possibly with TSJ out, Rodgers and Melendez under the weather and Goode still getting back in game shape they felt they didn't have enough bodies to do that. And also Illinois had the lead for the majority of the game so not really much need. Dont forget the guy with the hangnail couldnt get his hand up to guard. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 2nd half 1900- Galloway doesn't contain Epps. 2pts ILL 445- transition defense, Trey doesn't pick up the ball soon enough, commits a foul on Mayer. 2pts ILL You can disect it anyway you want. Kopp and TG are both good defenders. Our defense as a whole is a good unit, especially with the 2nd best individual defender being out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, BruceDouglas said: Possibly with TSJ out, Rodgers and Melendez under the weather and Goode still getting back in game shape You got the right avatar for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, BruceDouglas said: I was hoping for some full court pressure. Possibly with TSJ out, Rodgers and Melendez under the weather and Goode still getting back in game shape they felt they didn't have enough bodies to do that. And also Illinois had the lead for the majority of the game so not really much need. Well.. other thing.. Danga, Coleman battled some foul trouble... The more you press, the more those dudes are exposed on the back end. Pressing could have, if Indiana handled it well, resulted in your bigs being left on an island vs TJD and TJD would have space to operate at that point, as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, btownqb said: 2nd half 1900- Galloway doesn't contain Epps. 2pts ILL 445- transition defense, Trey doesn't pick up the ball soon enough, commits a foul on Mayer. 2pts ILL You can disect it anyway you want. Kopp and TG are both good defenders. Our defense as a whole is a good unit, especially with the 2nd best individual defender being out. Blue and I werent talking D skills of players when you jumped in . We were talking about who was on Mayer in the 2nd half. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: Well.. other thing.. Danga, Coleman battled some foul trouble... The more you press, the more those dudes are exposed on the back end. Pressing could have, if Indiana handled it well, resulted in your bigs being left on an island vs TJD and TJD would have space to operate at that point, as well. I was thinking if we did break it, and attacked, yeah, it would be a turkey shoot for Trayce... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: I was thinking if we did break it, and attacked, yeah, it would be a turkey shoot for Trayce... I think, the risk of TJD having a photo shoot at the rim was probably the biggest deterrent, outside of them having the lead the whole game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Indykev said: Blue and I werent talking D skills of players when you jumped in . We were talking about who was on Mayer in the 2nd half. I didn't say anything to the contrary. I just mentioned TJD didn't get dunked on.. he was really good vs Mayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, btownqb said: No. It was a fluke it worked last time. Those first, what, 4 or 5 games after Race went down, we had some some doozies in the back court, 10 second calls. It's been a while since that has happened but I think it was the Maryland game, they so effectively screwed up our flow with their pressure. But yeah, with the lead, not sure UI needed to but I would have added some token 3/4 pressure off and on with an emphasis on not getting beat back either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 11 minutes ago, btownqb said: I didn't say anything to the contrary. I just mentioned TJD didn't get dunked on.. he was really good vs Mayer. Let me rephrase it. Trayce pick Mayer up in transition.. Mayer blew by him off the dribble for the dunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Indykev said: Let me rephrase it. Trayce pick Mayer up in transition.. Mayer blew by him off the dribble for the dunk. Yes, that's a very advantageous spot for the offense. The same would have happened if anyone on our team had to guard Mayer in that spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indykev Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: Yes, that's a very advantageous spot for the offense. The same would have happened if anyone on our team had to guard Mayer in that spot. It only happened once so who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 20 hours ago, 5fouls said: When Kopp is on, like he was today, the team has to find ways to get him more than 5 shots. Bracey 2.0 took enough for everyone... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dawg Bawls said: Bracey 2.0 took enough for everyone... He's about 5x the winner and player BW was. Edited February 19, 2023 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Indykev said: It only happened once so who knows. Just tough for anyone to guard a 6'9 wing with no help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Bawls Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, btownqb said: Lame. Maybe so, but if you cant hit and someone else can, pass don't force it is all I'm saying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, Dawg Bawls said: Maybe so, but if you cant hit and someone else can, pass don't force it is all I'm saying So, pass it ppl who are guarded? Heckuva strategy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted February 19, 2023 Report Share Posted February 19, 2023 43 minutes ago, btownqb said: Well.. other thing.. Danga, Coleman battled some foul trouble... The more you press, the more those dudes are exposed on the back end. Pressing could have, if Indiana handled it well, resulted in your bigs being left on an island vs TJD and TJD would have space to operate at that point, as well. But Edey has more blocks than fouls 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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