IU Scott Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 29 minutes ago, rico said: His record is good enough for me. Each to their own. 117-111 overall 38-26 Oak 57-55 TB 22-31 Oak/LV 5 playoffs in 15 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, IU Scott said: 117-111 overall 38-26 Oak 57-55 TB 22-31 Oak/LV 5 playoffs in 15 years I am aware of the record. Good enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 Just now, rico said: I am aware of the record. Good enough for me. I would take a pass on him. If we are going to go after a questionable character coach then go after Urban 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I would take a pass on him. If we are going to go after a questionable character coach then go after Urban As I said earlier, I am fine with that as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 Haha to anyone thinking urban would even remotely consider the IU job.. this isn’t IU basketball… Gruden highly highly unlikely as well but at least there is a connection to IU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 Urban can sit in a chair and talk football while making millions.. why on earth would he want to deal with trying to make a bad program competitive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 40 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I would take a pass on him. If we are going to go after a questionable character coach then go after Urban He doesn't have a character problem. He's just flamboyant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 30 minutes ago, 5 championships said: Urban can sit in a chair and talk football while making millions.. why on earth would he want to deal with trying to make a bad program competitive Ego perhaps. He "shamefully" exited the NFL. Might feel he has something to prove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: He doesn't have a character problem. He's just flamboyant. Evidently Gruden is a "keyboard cowboy" on the computer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 Anyone who wants to boycott or cancel people because of something they've said or done that is disagreeable then don't buy from the Amish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 28 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: Anyone who wants to boycott or cancel people because of something they've said or done that is disagreeable then don't buy from the Amish. I missed it what the omens do that we should cancel our boycott them not pay taxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Indykev said: you dont. just a name to make a point. go get a big name proven winner. Exactly. Gruden's got baggage and Urban too. But any big name coach interested in IU is going to have some baggage which gives IU some leverage with their contract. But my overall point is, IU needs to do something to shake up the program, build some real interest both nationally and locally and get fans in the seats and some excitement on game day. At this point every win seems like a miracle or a relief. Big named guys might bring some confidence and cockiness that this program has lacked for a long, long time. Even if one of these guys flames out or bolts or whatever, why not see what happens? The program with the most losses in college football history might need to shy away from "one of its own" and/or local guys and finally do something unexpected. If I was Dolson, I would be gaging who may or may not have interest including Gruden. Like I mentioned, IU might actually have reasonable leverage on some of these guys because of their recent history, age or whatever. But it sure would be nice to try something different. I am not even advocating getting rid of CTA yet. But if they lose out, it's hard to imagine CTA being able to recruit anyone. Next year's schedule looks decent too. But how the PSU game plays out especially after a bye week and the two recent losses that should have been wins, will be a real indicator if the team has quit on him. IU seems to play PSU ok relative to the other big named teams, so I am not closing the door on the season or CTA yet, just spitballing what I would do if this season bottoms out even more so. Three of the four remaining games should dictate whether IU needs to start looking elsewhere. They have to be competitive and get at least one win or it's going to be another tough off season. Edited October 26, 2022 by OGIUAndy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, NotIThatLives said: I missed it what the omens do that we should cancel our boycott them not pay taxes? The ones I've been around can be pretty cavalier with their use of racist language and they don't like outsiders. And Amish parties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 8 minutes ago, mrflynn03 said: The ones I've been around can be pretty cavalier with their use of racist language and they don't like outsiders. And Amish parties. I too have had some "unusual" experiences with them as have others that I know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 hours ago, 5 championships said: Haha to anyone thinking urban would even remotely consider the IU job.. this isn’t IU basketball… Gruden highly highly unlikely as well but at least there is a connection to IU. According to DD Urban was interested in the IU job when he was at Bowling Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 hours ago, IU Scott said: How do you know kids would want to play for Gruden especially with his racially motivated emails Hard to say. A lot may not necessarily find what he said as totally disqualifying of being a good coach. Not saying I approve but I’ve been in a lot of locker rooms where gay slangs have been used and I don’t think anyone likes Goodell so maybe many would agree. the comment about DeMaurice Smith was more insensitive than racial but obviously in 2020 climate would get taken as racist attack instead of a horribly mean comment. Not justifying but man I think there are a lot of thicker skin people out there than NFL owners and newspaper writers. The most important thing to kids is to get to the NFL. This guy knows what it takes to do that and has coached some of the greatest players of all time. I don’t think for a second he would do it but would have no issue with him getting a second chance with the correct clauses in his contract. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 56 minutes ago, dgambill said: Hard to say. A lot may not necessarily find what he said as totally disqualifying of being a good coach. Not saying I approve but I’ve been in a lot of locker rooms where gay slangs have been used and I don’t think anyone likes Goodell so maybe many would agree. the comment about DeMaurice Smith was more insensitive than racial but obviously in 2020 climate would get taken as racist attack instead of a horribly mean comment. Not justifying but man I think there are a lot of thicker skin people out there than NFL owners and newspaper writers. The most important thing to kids is to get to the NFL. This guy knows what it takes to do that and has coached some of the greatest players of all time. I don’t think for a second he would do it but would have no issue with him getting a second chance with the correct clauses in his contract. I agree with all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 hour ago, dgambill said: Hard to say. A lot may not necessarily find what he said as totally disqualifying of being a good coach. Not saying I approve but I’ve been in a lot of locker rooms where gay slangs have been used and I don’t think anyone likes Goodell so maybe many would agree. the comment about DeMaurice Smith was more insensitive than racial but obviously in 2020 climate would get taken as racist attack instead of a horribly mean comment. Not justifying but man I think there are a lot of thicker skin people out there than NFL owners and newspaper writers. The most important thing to kids is to get to the NFL. This guy knows what it takes to do that and has coached some of the greatest players of all time. I don’t think for a second he would do it but would have no issue with him getting a second chance with the correct clauses in his contract. you might be right, but money talks. Look at all the products/athletes who are essentially firing Kanye West. You hire a guy who is not that far removed from the allegations against him, I can assure you that there will be repercussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: you might be right, but money talks. Look at all the products/athletes who are essentially firing Kanye West. You hire a guy who is not that far removed from the allegations against him, I can assure you that there will be repercussions. Winning cures everything...right? lol 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 17 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: you might be right, but money talks. Look at all the products/athletes who are essentially firing Kanye West. You hire a guy who is not that far removed from the allegations against him, I can assure you that there will be repercussions. Oh no doubt guy is canceled. What us fans would do and what a (let’s put it mildly) very liberal University would do in regards to hiring someone that has made the mistakes of Gruden are two different things. That said stranger things have happened… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 6 minutes ago, rico said: Winning cures everything...right? lol Bobby Petrino ring a bell? Just one of a dozen scumbags that got a second chance because they had an ability to win games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 Everyone of that gets offended by the things people say should spend a week on a construction site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 hours ago, mrflynn03 said: Anyone who wants to boycott or cancel people because of something they've said or done that is disagreeable then don't buy from the Amish. Yeah, but dang, they make the BEST rocking chairs. Solid! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Yeah, but dang, they make the BEST rocking chairs. Solid! Gooseberry Jam for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5 championships Posted October 26, 2022 Report Share Posted October 26, 2022 4 hours ago, IU Scott said: According to DD Urban was interested in the IU job when he was at Bowling Green When urban was at bowling green? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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