MoyeCowbell Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 It's a lot of fun comparing players from different eras and having bar talk on how they match up historically. But the downside is that when it's done with a contemporary player, all of the focus on where they slot in globally naturally takes away from what they're doing right now. We as fans lose sight of their greatness (and it IS greatness or they wouldn't even be in the damn conversation), and miss out on simply enjoying it in the moment. Where TJD lands on the all-time IU lists has absolutely zero affect on my life, but his day-to-day play (in games) actually does. When he and the team play well, it brings me joy. When they don't, it brings me (via PinkDot) a bottle of whisky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Scoring. @IU Scottthinks if someone would break that record post Viagra era, it should have an * Edited January 17, 2023 by IUFLA 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Scoring. Triple Doubles Double Doubles Double Ds Triple Es 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 Then there's this guy and his "longevity". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier4Life53 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, btownqb said: To be clear.... we should all very much want TJD back on our roster next year, regardless of what it would do to the record books. Would love to have him back, but it’s time to take his shot at the NBA. I’m betting he’s a second rounder, and has a solid career as a pro - time to go for it. Edited January 17, 2023 by Hoosier4Life53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluegrassIU Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 5 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: Then there's this guy and his "longevity". Glad he is sitting out and red shirting this year. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, Hoosier4Life53 said: Would love to have him back, but it’s time to take his shot at the NBA. I’m betting he’s a second rounder, and has a solid career as a pro - time to go for it. Probably. No one is really debating that. It's really going to be up to him with brother on campus and an overall lack of success as a team. Maybe he comes back. I'd give it maybe a 25% shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 If TJD comes back and sits at the top of scoring and rebounding he will have maybe 20ish more games played than the guys below him. Having done most of it with no supporting cast playing double teamed most of his career. Also, with no outside shot or a right hand. Look what he's been able to do with the tools he's had available. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 33 minutes ago, bluegrassIU said: Glad he is sitting out and red shirting this year. Red shirting from getting knocked out at a local bar? 😵 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, rico said: I haven't done the research on it. But TJD has to be up there in the losses category already. Another year and he might pass Cy Young? lol Records are kinda silly now Sacks….no records before 1982😳 college bowl don’t count for Barry Sanders ? Miller Kopp needs 200 points to pass Jimmy Rayl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: Also of note 3 of the 7 all time leading NCAA scorers played for their fathers... 😮 Pistol Pete McDermott Roy was Tyler Hansboroughs daddy? duh Davis 🤨 Edited January 17, 2023 by Purdue7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 14 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Miller Kopp needs 200 points to pass Jimmy Rayl I don't know if he can get a waiver for two more years to pass Rayl. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Pistol Pete McDermott Roy was Tyler Hansboroughs daddy? duh Davis 🤨 Davis should move into 2nd place either next game or the one after. But yes, Roy was Hansborough's father. But, he was not in Top 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWB Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 There are lots of guys who have been in the B1G for 5 seasons, heck Race is in year 6. Bohanon was there for 10 it seemed like. 5 seasons is almost normal anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, 5fouls said: Hank Aaron played 3298 games to hit 755 home runs. Babe Ruth played 2503 games to hit 714 home runs. Set aside Barry Bonds' gargantuan head for a moment. Who holds the MLB record for most non-steroid home runs? Ruth or Aaron? The difference is whether it's a rule. If MLB rules forced Ruth to stop playing, but not Aaron, then a big fat asterisk would be required. TJD is playing in a unique window that neither guys before or after him will have, so it's hard to see it as an actual record. I think the point of a record is to hold future players up to that comparison, so if they have more restrictive rules, the "record" is not serving its purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoosierDom Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, DWB said: There are lots of guys who have been in the B1G for 5 seasons, heck Race is in year 6. Bohanon was there for 10 it seemed like. 5 seasons is almost normal anymore. They don't play for 5 though unless they were around for the covid year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, IUFLA said: The all time leading scorer in NCAA history was a 3 year guy... Maravich? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKIM01 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 3 hours ago, 5fouls said: Scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, FKIM01 said: Maravich? Yep and he never played a NCAAT game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 21 minutes ago, rico said: Yep and he never played a NCAAT game! Because only the SEC champion was allowed to make it. That brings up another issue regarding tournament records. We cant count any of those either because the number of teams in the tourney changed over the years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 Teams play close to 40 games a year now... A player who played 40 games for 4 years would have to average 23 ppg to catch Maravich... I have a friend who played against him in college... Said whatever you saw on film wasn't nearly as impressive as it was live, on the court... Also said he might have missed a couple of blocks on Pistol because he was awestruck by the move to get the shot... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 50 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Because only the SEC champion was allowed to make it. That brings up another issue regarding tournament records. We cant count any of those either because the number of teams in the tourney changed over the years. I've always found it odd that there was a time playoff/post season stats didn't count in some sports. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: Because only the SEC champion was allowed to make it. That brings up another issue regarding tournament records. We cant count any of those either because the number of teams in the tourney changed over the years. True. But LSU sucked his first 2 years . NIT his Sr. year. FYI - Pete's final game, a loss, came at the hands of a Bob Knight coached Army team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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