Reacher Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Instead of hoping to win the conference, I'm now hoping to finish in the top half. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 14 minutes ago, Reacher said: Instead of hoping to win the conference, I'm now hoping to finish in the top half. Really? I hope we squeak into the tournament. At least by then we could be healthy again and could put it all together for one last try but I'm not sure it's going to happen. Nit it may be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, NotIThatLives said: Really? I hope we squeak into the tournament. At least by then we could be healthy again and could put it all together for one last try but I'm not sure it's going to happen. Nit it may be I figure a top half finish can get us in the tournament Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 losses at Iowa and home vs. NW have to leave you wondering how many more we'll lose. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 WI at home will be huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, Reacher said: I figure a top half finish can get us in the tournament Those are lofty expectations? Maybe we can finish 10th. I don't know? They better figure out an identity and get some game plans together because the coaches and players have to step up or this is no not a tourney team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotIThatLives Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, Reacher said: WI at home will be huge At least they are super unathletic, which means they will pass all over and hit shot after shot. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reacher Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Right now, I feel like we won't have a chance in any game if TJD and JHS don't score 30 a piece 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Reacher said: Right now, I feel like we won't have a chance in any game if TJD and JHS don't score 30 a piece Scoring not the problem. Defense is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 10 minutes ago, slojoe said: Scoring not the problem. Defense is. I say we have issues on both ends. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilleHoosier Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 27 minutes ago, slojoe said: Scoring not the problem. Defense is. With the trouble we have guarding the drive and the over-helping issues, I think it is time to switch to zone full time. Should also help keep our guys out of foul trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, EvilleHoosier said: over-helping issues That got us burned on a bunch of possessions, didn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilleHoosier Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, IUFLA said: That got us burned on a bunch of possessions, didn't it? All season long and at times last year. Thought it may have had to do with Archie guys adjusting from the pack line, but some of the guys doing it this year never played for Archie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, IUFLA said: That got us burned on a bunch of possessions, didn't it? It really kind of has all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, rico said: I say we have issues on both ends. Our issues defensively have gotten much worse from last year. KenPom says that in defensive efficiency we were #24 last year but this year we are #47. Our issues on offense are less this year as KenPom says that in offensive efficiency we were #95 last year but #21 this year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, slojoe said: Our issues defensively have gotten much worse from last year. KenPom says that in defensive efficiency we were #24 last year but this year we are #47. Our issues on offense are less this year as KenPom says that in offensive efficiency we were #95 last year but #21 this year. That stat is 80% tied to losing X. Before his injury, we were Top 20 defensively. Without him we cant guard the perimeter. On the flip side, our offensive efficiency has improved with him out. The reality is, though, it takes both. Edited January 8, 2023 by 5fouls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: That stat is 80% tied to losing X. Before his injury, we were Top 20 defensively. Without him we cant guard the perimeter. On the flip side, our offensive efficiency has improved with him out. The reality is, though, it takes both. Does that offensive efficiency take turnovers into account? And how about points scored off of our turnovers? Where does that fit in? Because those were a huge difference in the game today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, rico said: Does that offensive efficiency take turnovers into account? And how about points scored off of our turnovers? Where does that fit in? Because those were a huge difference in the game today. I'm honestly not sure how it works. But, you're right I think we had 16 turnovers and 14 of them were steals by NW. That many live ball turnovers is going to lead to a lot of easy baskets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 Turnovers have been a problem this season, steals in particular. IU's opponents have an average of 7.3 steals per game this season. 10.2 steals per game in the 5 loses. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that isn't good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 43 minutes ago, 5fouls said: I'm honestly not sure how it works. But, you're right I think we had 16 turnovers and 14 of them were steals by NW. My guess is that the turnovers aren't figured into the offensive efficiency? But we are turning over the ball on offense that leads to fast break/transition points for the opponents. If we can fix that issue then it will lead to more points for us and less for the opponent...I call this possession efficiency. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted January 8, 2023 Report Share Posted January 8, 2023 19-12 record for this team seems about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 26 minutes ago, Mike said: 19-12 record for this team seems about right. That would put us .500 in conference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
go_iu_bb Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, Mike said: 19-12 record for this team seems about right. 1 minute ago, rico said: That would put us .500 in conference... That seems like a stretch at this point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 Not the end of the world yet. We lost X but we had/ have JHS to slide into that role. Lost Race, and not sure we have anyone on this roster to replace all the intangibles he brings to the team. Might take a bit longer than a late night flight back from Iowa City and today’s game for this team, and CMW to figure out how to replace RT. Don’t get me wrong, guys are gonna have to step up. CMW is gonna have to find a way to play to his remaining player’s strengths. Not gonna be easy, but there is talent enough to stay afloat until injuries heal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted January 9, 2023 Report Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said: Not the end of the world yet. We lost X but we had/ have JHS to slide into that role. Lost Race, and not sure we have anyone on this roster to replace all the intangibles he brings to the team. Might take a bit longer than a late night flight back from Iowa City and today’s game for this team, and CMW to figure out how to replace RT. Don’t get me wrong, guys are gonna have to step up. CMW is gonna have to find a way to play to his remaining player’s strengths. Not gonna be easy, but there is talent enough to stay afloat until injuries heal. JHS may have slid into the PG role, but it's not like he's coming off the bench and picking up minutes he wasn't playing. He was already playing more minutes than X. It's greatly weakened our defense (essentially Bates for X) and our ball handling (turnovers have been a problem for JHS since taking over for X). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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