Artesian_86 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Im sure you all saw Coach late in the game ripping one of the coaches calling plays from above, he was also in coach Chad Wilt face about something later on after that….. There definitely seems some mismanagement when we were coming back in some play calling and I think Coach felt it…..Anyone see the same thing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo123 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 It all starts and ends up front. We need an O-line coach that players want to play for and who can recruit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artesian_86 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Let’s face it…..the O-line is our biggest weakness. It starts with Hiller. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 I know we have recruited a lot better for IU standards but still not good enough to compete in the Big Ten. This year's class is going to be small and right now not that good of a class. You think on a college roster where you probably have 16 scholarship O Lineman so you would think you would have some quality depth in case of injuries. The big problem that is IU football is the chicken or the egg which comes first. It is said to win you need great players to win and you have to win to get good players. So if you are losing that means you don't have good enough players so how will you ever get good enough players to win. That is why the majority of the top players keep going to the same top programs and you see the same teams on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier82 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 57 minutes ago, btownqb said: Wanting to bench Bazelak is laughable though. You honestly think Tuttle is that much worse than him? Bazelak is inconsistent and his overthrows lead to INTs. Is it his fault? Maybe not. There are high school teams with better OLs than us. If we’re going to play like this with Bazelak, then go with Tuttle. I think benching him is as much to do with his play and the fact that Tuttle has the locker room. He’s paid his dues and is arguably just as good according to the coaching staff who needed 100% of the off season to make a decision. Maybe better? Lets find out. He’s a team captain and earned the shot. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-BONE Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) Pass protection sucks mightily. Defense needs to get the deep coverages fixed. Mistakes galore. Just sloppy football despite the injuries up front. I don't think there's a challenge to Bazelak. He needs better protection, better accuracy, and better decisions though. Edited September 25, 2022 by D-BONE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo123 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Defensive mistakes. Offensive mistakes. Special teams mistakes, Coaching mistakes. I would say that just about sums it up. Yep a total team effort. The one bright spot. They never packed it in! Lets clean it up and go get our second big win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 I’m not worried about who’s QB, because by the time we get to Purdue will be playing walk on QB. Our offensive line will get them all hurt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 11-1 instead of 12-0. Nothing to worry about. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hoosierinbham Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, btownqb said: Not saying Tuttle is the answer, but those stats are with a different OC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier82 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Hoosierinbham said: Not saying Tuttle is the answer, but those stats are with a different OC. As well as… Tuttle played hurt. He didn’t get QB1 snaps all off season, OL was still garbage/hurt, etc, etc. MSU had an NFL running back. We didn’t get blown out in that game. We had walk ons for a RB room. Btown is a blowhard who can’t admit when he’s wrong. Best to just move on and let his bad takes play out on their own. CTA’s blind and deaf loyalty to Hiller is and will be his downfall. It’s sad because there’s no reason to stick your neck out for a crap OL coach just because he’s your friend. We had an amazing thing going and CTA let it implode. He’s simply not a head coach at this level. Not everyone is meant to be CEO. Edited September 25, 2022 by Hoosier82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierinbham Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Hoosier82 said: As well as Tuttle played hurt. He didn’t get QB1 snaps all off season, OL was still garbage, etc, etc. MSU had an NFL running back. Btown is a blowhard who can’t admit when he’s wrong. Best to just move on and let his bad takes play out on their own. CTA’s blind and deaf loyalty to Hiller us and will be his downfall. It’s sad because there’s no reason to stick your neck out for a crap OL coach just because he’s your friend. We had an amazing thing going and CTA let it implode. He’s simply not a head coach at this level. Not everyone is meant to be CEO. So strange about Hiller. Everyone saw it except Allen. Afraid it will sink him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: I know we have recruited a lot better for IU standards but still not good enough to compete in the Big Ten. This year's class is going to be small and right now not that good of a class. You think on a college roster where you probably have 16 scholarship O Lineman so you would think you would have some quality depth in case of injuries. The big problem that is IU football is the chicken or the egg which comes first. It is said to win you need great players to win and you have to win to get good players. So if you are losing that means you don't have good enough players so how will you ever get good enough players to win. That is why the majority of the top players keep going to the same top programs and you see the same teams on top. Ratings wise our recruiting classes have increased and we were in top 25 in the incoming class. I would also observe that for the last 2 years we have relied on the portal for many skill players. I think this year that almost all of our offensive skill players are from the portal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slojoe Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 I think that there are 3 and maybe more games on the schedule that we can win and get to a bowl despite our current problems. Nebraska, Purdue, Maryland, and Rutgers. I know Md. gave UM all they could handle at UM, but that game is at IU. Unfortunately Rutgers and Md. getting better and we will have problems beating anyone in our division in the future if we don't start rolling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Part of the QB problem is we always seem to end up with crappy teams hand me down transfers. Tired of getting everyone else's table scraps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Has anyone found out why with seconds on the clock in first half we tried to throw a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrflynn03 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, OLDIUFAN said: Has anyone found out why with seconds on the clock in first half we tried to throw a pass. Desperation? At that point we were getting our ass kicked and they received to begin 2nd half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) I have been a long time IU fan I back them in all sports! Other then a few years IU football has never had big time success. I guess my question is why can’t we rebuild! look at Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota,Cincinnati no doubt Illinois will be much better in a few years! why can’t we find the guy who can rebuild this program? I remember when Wisconsin program wasn’t any better then us know look at them. Hell Kentucky is ranked 8th in football has been good now for a few years! Edited September 25, 2022 by OLDIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, OLDIUFAN said: I have been a long time IU fan I back them in all sports! Other then a few years IU football has never had big time success. I guess my question is why can’t we rebuild! look at Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota,Cincinnati no doubt Illinois will be much better in a few years! why can’t we find the guy who can rebuild this program? I remember when Wisconsin program wasn’t any better then us know look at them. I really thought Cam Cameron was going to be that guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogue3542 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 (edited) 55 minutes ago, OLDIUFAN said: I have been a long time IU fan I back them in all sports! Other then a few years IU football has never had big time success. I guess my question is why can’t we rebuild! look at Rutgers, Maryland, Minnesota,Cincinnati no doubt Illinois will be much better in a few years! why can’t we find the guy who can rebuild this program? I remember when Wisconsin program wasn’t any better then us know look at them. Rutgers got rolled by the vaunted Iowa offense yesterday, so... September Maryland is always a relative juggernaut. October Maryland tends to slide a lot. We aren't rebuilding. We are still BUILDING. We're going to have more support from the admin now with Whitten, but we are still pulling ourselves out of decades of being a doormat. Take away our mistakes yesterday (just like last year vs Cincy), and by the fourth quarter it's a very close game up for grabs. We simply can't afford those types of mistakes in these kind of games. Also, despite the secondary yesterday, our line play continues to be our Achilles heel. Edited September 25, 2022 by rogue3542 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petertucky2 Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 We need to see how we do when the divisions go away from their current form. Big ten east is just ridiculously tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDIUFAN Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 Our O Line play has been ridiculously bad for several years! What are we waiting for! Some kind of Devine intervention! Biggest truth is you can only run plays you can block! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Petertucky2 said: We need to see how we do when the divisions go away from their current form. Big ten east is just ridiculously tough. This entire team/football organization better get more competitive or doing away with the divisions ain't gonna do us any good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoyeCowbell Posted September 25, 2022 Report Share Posted September 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, rico said: This entire team/football organization better get more competitive or doing away with the divisions ain't gonna do us any good. 100% agree. All of the hoping and fun reconfiguring of the divisions is wasted energy, pointless, and a bit sad. Why look 'outwards' for an easier path? IU has got to make sure it's own house is in order and simply make itself better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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