Sea Turtle Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, KoB2011 said: I hate to sound like Scott, but I think some of our fans may be to blame for that and some of our other problems. Our fans reaction to the Fife firing and the XJ non-situation has been eye-opening; elite programs don't react the way our fans have. I have no idea if Woody will be the long-term guy or not, no one does, but some of our fans are almost rooting against him after a year over some really dumb things. I don't give a rats behind about the XJ incident. That's baby stuff compared to other programs. Were there guns? Drugs? DUI? No? Then the ones who want him gone can GTFO The fan base is naive and frankly, grandma like. I want Woodson to succeed. I think he can. But this program, the administration and the fan base is stuck in 1987. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Sea Turtle said: I don't give a rats behind about the XJ incident. That's baby stuff compared to other programs. Were there guns? Drugs? DUI? No? Then the ones who want him gone can GTFO The fan base is naive and frankly, grandma like. I want Woodson to succeed. I think he can. But this program, the administration and the fan base is stuck in 1987. Preach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: I don't give a rats behind about the XJ incident. That's baby stuff compared to other programs. Were there guns? Drugs? DUI? No? Then the ones who want him gone can GTFO The fan base is naive and frankly, grandma like. I want Woodson to succeed. I think he can. But this program, the administration and the fan base is stuck in 1987. I agree with you on all of that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 Man… this game is just shows me how far behind we are… the intensity and speed of this game from both sides is just on a whole other level.. we’re light years away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 On 4/2/2022 at 10:35 PM, hoosier_exotics said: If these games showed us anything, it should be we have to recruit on a national level. Wanting kids from Indiana, just because they are from Indiana is not going to cut it. EXACTLY!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 I think the big ten problem is these type of players don't want to play the big ten style of basketball 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think the big ten problem is these type of players don't want to play the big ten style of basketball They don't, but do you blame them? We should be rooting for teams like Michigan to succeed along with us if we want to see the conference join the 21st century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, TheWatShot said: I thought a recruiting cycle was 4 years. sorry i didn't really know that. Makes sense, but i still doubt we have that level of talent even in 4 years But here's to hoping so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 Just now, KoB2011 said: They don't, but do you blame them? We should be rooting for teams like Michigan to succeed along with us if we want to see the conference join the 21st century. The thing about UM is that I think Houston and Diabetes can compete in this style but Dickerson and their guards couldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 This intensity and athleticism across the board is insane.. only IU team(s) that I think could compete pace wise in this game is the 2015-2017 roster… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, KoB2011 said: They don't, but do you blame them? We should be rooting for teams like Michigan to succeed along with us if we want to see the conference join the 21st century. I think we are off to a good start with Bates, JHS, Banks and Newton. I also think Cupp will be a good steady point guard who hopefully can be like Gillespie of Villanova. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, IU Scott said: I think we are off to a good start with Bates, JHS, Banks and Newton. I also think Cupp will be a good steady point guard who hopefully can be like Gillespie of Villanova. Agreed. I think we have the right idea for how we are building the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Jackson Kellogs said: This intensity and athleticism across the board is insane.. only IU team(s) that I think could compete pace wise in this game is the 2015-2017 roster… I hope you are just talking about recent IU teams because some of RMK best teams played with pace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 Great job by Self of adjusting; clearing McCormick (sp?) out and letting guys have space to operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackson Kellogs Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 Just a reminder that we play Kansas next year…. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 29 minutes ago, Sea Turtle said: The fan base is naive and frankly, grandma like. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierfan1901 Posted April 5, 2022 Author Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 I take a shower for 10 minutes and now it’s tied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 Agree that we need an upgrade in talent. Do not agree that this style of play is the end all, be all. KU was horrible the first half and shot as badly as we did this season. UNC has played out of control this half, taken terrible shots, turned the ball over, and given up a 15 point lead. Villanova made it to the Final Four playing a style of ball very similar to B1G play. They very well could be playing tonight had they not lost one of their key players. Talent on the floor is much better, but different styles can win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, Jackson Kellogs said: Just a reminder that we play Kansas next year…. 😂 They only play 7 guys so how many of them will be back next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inequality Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 Imagine TJD having talent surrounding him like NC has around Bacot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OGIUAndy Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) On 4/4/2022 at 9:46 PM, Jackson Kellogs said: Man… this game is just shows me how far behind we are… the intensity and speed of this game from both sides is just on a whole other level.. we’re light years away. We have to recruit with and for the big boys, no more playing around. IU is going the direction of targeting elite recruits nationwide, pitching the NBA connections of Woody, targeting guys from IMG and Montverde, going all in with NIL. That said, it is very possible Woodson/IU is not successful but I don't believe the old school approach will get you to the Final Four on a regular basis anymore. Most of the current coaches in the Big Ten are proving that. Painter etc. were really cocky about getting old, staying old, taking no transfers, etc. but at the end of the day those programs can't run the table in the tournament. Eventually they run into teams stocked with NBA talent and lose. The guys on the Final Four teams are athletic, can handle the ball and shoot. The Wisconsin/Purdue type teams have really good role players that know system well but very few NBA level guys. They are very well coached, do really good in conference, win 25 games but usually can't get over the hump against the elite teams. Big Ten has only won 3 NC's in the last 40 years. Everyone talks about IU "dusty banners" but IU has the third most recent NC in the Big Ten which is only two years behind the second most recent - U of M in '89. Long story short, if you want IU to succeed and play for Championships, you have to get on board with them going after big time recruits, not copying the Wisky/PU approach (as of now). Edited April 7, 2022 by OGIUAndy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hoosierfan1901 said: I take a shower for 10 minutes and now it’s tied OKAY MR. BRAGGER! Some of us only need a minute to "shower" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FritzIam4IU Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 45 minutes ago, tdhoosier said: …always 4 years away. Cubs fans like to say there’s always next year. We like to say there’s always the new coach’s next full recruiting cycle. Help is on the way! 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 I guess Johnson ran until he Puked. I hope Woodson has watched these teams and most of the tournament teams that they usually only play 7-8 players in the rotation. To me I hope we see the court and of playing 10 guys and having all the starters out at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoB2011 Posted April 5, 2022 Report Share Posted April 5, 2022 My man was running as hard as Xavier going from Sports to the McDonald's on North Walnut. Too soon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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