rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, IUFLA said: A lot of your guys are newer players and it takes a minute to get a good book on where the holes in their swings are... But once they find them, everybody knows it... And if you can't adjust, you go the Joe Charboneau route... The Reds, as a team, strike out way too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, rico said: The Reds, as a team, strike out way too much. Tied with the Cubs for 8th highest total Ks... But that's kinda endemic to today's game, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, IUFLA said: Tied with the Cubs for 8th highest total Ks... But that's kinda endemic to today's game, isn't it? It is. But the Reds have 6 guys batting .270 or better. Seems they wouldn't strike out so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, rico said: Right now Kyle is averaging 40 HRs and 89 RBI over 162 games. Most teams will take that. I wouldn't because you should have way more RBI when you have 40hr. If he would make more contact and put the ball in play his numbers would be a lot better. I am sorry but hitting .195 is not good enough to me to be on my team. It was the same way for me when Adam Dunn was on the Reds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, rico said: I think what tells most about Herr is his all-star appearances. He only had 1. That tells you all you need to know. I am not specifically just Herr as as an individual but just that kind of stat line. I rather have a player who makes contact and drive runners in over a guy just hitting homers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, IU Scott said: I am not specifically just Herr as as an individual but just that kind of stat line. I rather have a player who makes contact and drive runners in over a guy just hitting homers Well guys that homer are usually high rbi guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, rico said: It is. But the Reds have 6 guys batting .270 or better. Seems they wouldn't strike out so much. It seemed like the strikeouts have increased on the last couple of weeks. Early on it seemed like we were making better contact and not striking out as much. I think when we started hitting more homers it lead to guys trying to hit more homers instead of making good contact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, rico said: Well guys that homer are usually high rbi guys. But to me a guy like Schwarber should have more than 89rbi if he hits over 40 homers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just now, IU Scott said: But to me a guy like Schwarber should have more than 89rbi if he hits over 40 homers Well he is batting lead-off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, IU Scott said: It seemed like the strikeouts have increased on the last couple of weeks. Early on it seemed like we were making better contact and not striking out as much. I think when we started hitting more homers it lead to guys trying to hit more homers instead of making good contact I don't see it that way. They just strike out a lot. Not scoring runs magnifies it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, rico said: Well he is batting lead-off. That is stupid in itself, why have a guy who strikes out a lot leading off. He should be hitting 6th or 7th when more guys are on base. I would think if he was up with runners on he would make more if an effort to just make contact. I would want a guy with a lot of speed leading off who can score easily on a double Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, rico said: I don't see it that way. They just strike out a lot. Not scoring runs magnifies it. Just going off memory and at my age can be bad but it seems to me when we were hot we weren't striking out at this rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) Luke Weaver should start every game for the Reds. They score 7-8 runs every time he starts. Edited July 18, 2023 by 5fouls 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 hours ago, btownqb said: Tommy Herr was a 2nd baseman.. He only had two seasons where he hit over .278... he only had 4 seasons with more than 60 RBIs.. two of those were 60, 61... Career- .270/.347/.350-- he wasn't even an average slap hitter... if @5fouls isn't as impressed with Shohei hitting 55 bombs as he is Babe Ruth because of the difference in eras, what Herr did at the plate shouldn't be impressive at all. Schwarber-- .228/.336/.490 Ohtani would not have even made the roster for the 1927 Yankee team, considered to be the best of all time. - - - He wasn't born yet. , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 23 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Luke Weaver should start every game for the Reds. They score 7-8 runs every time he starts. A helluva lot can be said for a pitcher that gets run support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 All this Ohtani "hype" is letting people forget about Acuna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: Ohtani would not have even made the roster for the 1927 Yankee team, considered to be the best of all time. - - - He wasn't born yet. , Very, very good point. I cannot argue that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, rico said: All this Ohtani "hype" is letting people forget about Acuna. I'm not. He's a frigging stud. Probably my favorite player that isn't a Red. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: I am not specifically just Herr as as an individual but just that kind of stat line. I rather have a player who makes contact and drive runners in over a guy just hitting homers That kind of stat line sucks, though. His OBP isn't good and he can't hit it out of the infield. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, btownqb said: That kind of stat line sucks, though. His OBP isn't good and he can't hit it out of the infield. Herr, that year, benefitted highly from having Vince Coleman and Willie McGee in front of him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 20 minutes ago, rico said: Herr, that year, benefitted highly from having Vince Coleman and Willie McGee in front of him. The guy hitting behind him got him a lot of good pitches to hit... No pitcher, dead or alive, would rather face Jack Clark than friggin Tommy Herr... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, IUFLA said: The guy hitting behind him got him a lot of good pitches to hit... No pitcher, dead or alive, would rather face Jack Clark than friggin Tommy Herr... There is some random pitcher out there that absolutely owned Jack Clark, but Herr batted like .450 against. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: The guy hitting behind him got him a lot of good pitches to hit... No pitcher, dead or alive, would rather face Jack Clark than friggin Tommy Herr... As I said earlier, Tommy only appeared in an AS game once. He was a small cog in a big Redbird machine that had Clark, Coleman, McGee, Van Slyke, Terry Pendleton, and Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 minute ago, 5fouls said: There is some random pitcher out there that absolutely owned Jack Clark, but Herr batted like .450 against. Stats aside, I stand by my statement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 18, 2023 Report Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, 5fouls said: There is some random pitcher out there that absolutely owned Jack Clark, but Herr batted like .450 against. Probably Mario Soto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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