btownqb Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Come on...that's unfair...A lot of those guys HAD to have a second vocation in the off season because of the shitty pay for baseball players at the time... You only had 8 teams in a league, so the talent was less diluted...Ruth faced 13 HoF pitchers in his career... I don't think its unfair at all. If you're holding certain things against Shohei, and some of those points are reasonable.. then lets bring up all the factors, not just the ones that benefit Ruth. Sure HOFers from 1920. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Big fan of Enrique. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Just now, btownqb said: I don't think its unfair at all. If you're holding certain things against Shohei, and some of those points are reasonable.. then lets bring up all the factors, not just the ones that benefit Ruth. Sure HOFers from 1920. Some of the guys currently pitching to Ohtani should probably look into blacksmithing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Some of the guys currently pitching to Ohtani should probably look into blacksmithing I'm sure they'd all prefer it, compared to having to pitch to him. Edited July 10, 2023 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, btownqb said: I don't think its unfair at all. If you're holding certain things against Shohei, and some of those points are reasonable.. then lets bring up all the factors, not just the ones that benefit Ruth. Sure HOFers from 1920. Jesus, Ohtani isn't even in the HoF yet. He might be sniffing it but he ain't there yet. Quit stroking him so much and wipe that mayo off your chin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Just now, rico said: Jesus, Ohtani isn't even in the HoF yet. He might be sniffing it but he ain't there yet. Quit stroking him so much and wipe that mayo off your chin. You really struggle in these conversations. Have a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, btownqb said: And throwing 95? Cmon now. Throwing "95" doesn't make you a pitcher...at least not in the truest sense...And there were hard throwers in Ruth's day...Walter Johnson, Smokey Joe Wood, Carl Mays... 5 minutes ago, btownqb said: You really struggle in these conversations. Have a good one. Come on man...All in good fun...I'll cop to not being as appreciative of today's players as I possibly should if you'll cop to not appreciating those of the early days of the game... BTW, if you value WAR as a stat, look up The Bambino's Edited July 10, 2023 by IUFLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, btownqb said: You really struggle in these conversations. Have a good one. Awwww. I'm sorry there Shohei. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Throwing "95" doesn't make you a pitcher...at least not in the truest sense...And there were hard throwers in Ruth's day...Walter Johnson, Smokey Joe Wood, Carl Mays... Come on man...All in good fun...I'll cop to not being as appreciative of today's players as I possibly should if you'll cop to not appreciating those of the early days of the game... BTW, if you value WAR as a stat, look up The Bambino's Sure. Let Rico know. Edited July 10, 2023 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, rico said: Awwww. I'm sorry there Shohei. Are you like Babe Ruth's brother? I've never really seen someone get butthurt over something like this. To each their own though. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, IUFLA said: Some of the guys currently pitching to Ohtani should probably look into blacksmithing Don't forget some don't think that anything before they were born didn't really happened. They also think guys in the past had no athletic ability and people only became athletic the last 20 years. I guess Jesse Ownes and Jim Thorpe was very athletic . Just go watch some dunk contest from the 80's and tell me players wasn't bad athletic Edited July 10, 2023 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-hire-former-player-broadcaster-sean-casey-to-replace-fired-hitting-coach-dillon-lawson-per-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, rico said: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-hire-former-player-broadcaster-sean-casey-to-replace-fired-hitting-coach-dillon-lawson-per-report/ Casey was too good of a hitter to be an effective hitting coach...you gotta get a Walt Hriniak or Charlie Lau 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Jesse Owned He sure did with Hitler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Casey was too good of a hitter to be an effective hitting coach...you gotta get a Walt Hriniak or Charlie Lau Lau....Max Dugan Returns! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Dammit.. I meant to post this morning that I wanted to Reds to take Hunter Hollan.. I'm a fan of that pick, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Hollan went 5.1IP 7K 0R vs LSU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, btownqb said: Hollan went 5.1IP 7K 0R vs LSU What school did he go to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Just now, IU Scott said: What school did he go to Arkansas via JUCO. Which was San Jacinto (one of the bigger/better JUCOs) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 Well... does anyone else think Votto can get to 400? He's 51 away... 71 games left this season, plus playoffs?!?! 🤣🙈🙈 This is obviously assuming he plays next season.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 14 minutes ago, btownqb said: Arkansas via JUCO. Which was San Jacinto (one of the bigger/better JUCOs) I just read up on him. He went from the fastball being 87-89 to now 92-94 in the last year. Also like him being a LHP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, btownqb said: Are you like Babe Ruth's brother? I've never really seen someone get butthurt over something like this. To each their own though. 👍 LMAO. I ain't butthurt. But I sure as in the f&$* have watched more baseball than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, btownqb said: I'd assume at least half the pitchers Ruth was taking swings off of wouldn't sniff Triple A now, though. That's my whole issue. Ruth hit bombs off carpenters, blacksmiths, and common folk. Shohei takes today's pitching deep. As a hitter, Ruth also had to deal with dirty/scuffed baseballs that pitchers could use to their advantage, balls not juiced as much as they are today, 420 foot power alleys with 450 to dead center, all night train rides to the next city, etc. It's a different game in a different era, but if you strictly look at the impact they both have against the peers they played against, Ruth wins. Shohei is great, but he's not as proportionately better compared to other players today than Ruth was in his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, rico said: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/yankees-hire-former-player-broadcaster-sean-casey-to-replace-fired-hitting-coach-dillon-lawson-per-report/ The Mayor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 10, 2023 Report Share Posted July 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, 5fouls said: As a hitter, Ruth also had to deal with dirty/scuffed baseballs that pitchers could use to their advantage, balls not juiced as much as they are today, 420 foot power alleys with 450 to dead center, all night train rides to the next city, etc. It's a different game in a different era, but if you strictly look at the impact they both have against the peers they played against, Ruth wins. Shohei is great, but he's not as proportionately better compared to other players today than Ruth was in his time. This argument will be moot because De La Cruz is better than both of them LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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