Seeking6 Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, 5fouls said: Let's not lose sight of the fact that Babe Ruth was ever bit as accomplished a starting pitcher as Ohtani. the difference is that the Yankees were 'forced' to stop pitching him to get him into the every day lineup since the DH did not exist at the time. Ohtani would not be doing dual duty without the DH either. Also, while Ohtani may have 32 home runs at the all-star break, let's not lose sight of the fact that Matt Olson has 29 and 3 other guys have 26. When Ruth hit 54 home runs in 1920, he out-homered every other TEAM in the American League. Ohtani is not even approaching something like that. I've always been under the impression that since HR's were so rare at the time Ruth that chose himself to stop pitching because hitting HR's was a way to get paid and notoriety. Pitchers didn't get the star status that hitting could. I've listened to Smoltz talk about how much goes into every single pitching start let alone every single at bat....he's of the opinion what Ohtani is doing just is flat out shocking. Never been done before type stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Reds against a lefty today and Newman is DH and batting leadoff. and Votto is still playing. If CES is here, you could conceivably have CES replace Newman and keep Votto in lineup. Against righties, you could have some sort of rotation that gives McLain, India, Steer, Stephenson, and CES each a day off every 5 times you face a right-handed starter. Gives you a quality bat off the bench to face a left-hander later in the game as well. I would still put Freidl leading off even against lefties. I think the last time I saw he was hitting around .300 against Lefties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I would still put Freidl leading off even against lefties. I think the last time I saw he was hitting around .300 against Lefties Batting .300 vs. righties, .342 vs. LHP. https://www.rotowire.com/baseball/player-splits.php?id=14502 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 Fudge I wish the Reds could get Skenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 Onc again I can't watch the Reds game because Bally Sports is showing the Fever game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 Just now, btownqb said: Fudge I wish the Reds could get Skenes. How about he pitcher from Wake Forrest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, rico said: Batting .300 vs. righties, .342 vs. LHP. https://www.rotowire.com/baseball/player-splits.php?id=14502 There's more to that decision then just straight numbers.. and once through the order its irrelevant anyways. But... I do think that's the move that'll eventually happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, IU Scott said: How about he pitcher from Wake Forrest Yes. Yes.. he'd be way up there for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, btownqb said: Yes. Yes.. he'd be way up there for me too. Probably won't take him long to get to the majors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 India is really struggling and hopefully the all star break will help him. He has played in every game this year and started all but 2 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 I figured the offense would struggle today against Wade Miley and so far they have. Through 4 innings the Reds have only 2 hits and haven't gotten a walk. In the first and fourth inning we got lead off hits and the runner never moved in both innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 9, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: Onc again I can't watch the Reds game because Bally Sports is showing the Fever game What's the Fever score? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 12 minutes ago, 5fouls said: What's the Fever score? Have no idea I am not watching it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 Reds down 1-0 in the bottom of the 6th. The Brewers only run was on a two out single in Winker in the first inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 1-0 bottom of 8th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 Yuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 Reds lose 1-0 I know the stats don't really show it but to my eye test the Reds struggle more against LHP starters. I like Freidl leading off and rather have Fraley and Benson in the lineup over Senzel and Newman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 55 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Reds lose 1-0 I know the stats don't really show it but to my eye test the Reds struggle more against LHP starters. I like Freidl leading off and rather have Fraley and Benson in the lineup over Senzel and Newman 8 games under .500 going into Memorial Day and now 9 games over. Guys get a break. Mgt can figure out what they can do to add some arms without mortgaging the talent. Fun stretch coming up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: Reds lose 1-0 I know the stats don't really show it but to my eye test the Reds struggle more against LHP starters. I like Freidl leading off and rather have Fraley and Benson in the lineup over Senzel and Newman They don't have half the power against lefties. India, EDLC, Benson, Votto lose a lot of power vs LHP even when they're kept in the lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 David Ross gets ejected 5 pitches in to the bottom of the first... I think it's about time to start looking at replacements... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 To me this off season the Reds will have some major decisions to make with how to balance their roster. They have to many infielders who should start than they positions to fill. To me Steer and Senzel are way better defensively as an infielder. Today Steer mis played a fly ball into a double in the first inning and that gave the Brewers their only run. To me Steer is best a first base and Senzel at 3rd base. To me it is best to have EDLC at short and McClain at 2B, Steer at 1st. I know people are sentimental but for me this would be Votto's last year and I would trade India and Senzel. To me there is better use for the 25M that Votto makes than resigning him. I would have Encarscion-Strand at 3rd or DH. Outfield Freidl should be the CF and leadoff hitter. If Benson keeps up what he is doing now for the rest of the year he should be the every day LF. Fraley is the hard one to figure out because he hits RHP great but not LHP. Might be good to keep him and platoon at RF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, IUFLA said: David Ross gets ejected 5 pitches in to the bottom of the first... I think it's about time to start looking at replacements... I did like his comment to the ump....people can find it online but basically had the Yankees announcers laughing too. Ross just isn't getting it done in concert with Cubs ownership/talent evaluation,etc....just like the college game if guys come up via the system or via trades and they don't work maybe we need to change the talent evaluator. IE Jed. I'll take the entire Rays mgt group and start over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IUFLA Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I did like his comment to the ump....people can find it online but basically had the Yankees announcers laughing too. Ross just isn't getting it done in concert with Cubs ownership/talent evaluation,etc....just like the college game if guys come up via the system or via trades and they don't work maybe we need to change the talent evaluator. IE Jed. I'll take the entire Rays mgt group and start over. Yeah, it was funny... But I have to believe he was looking for an early start to the All-Star break... There's not a whole lot that can happen in 5 pitches to get that worked up about... Appreciate what he did as a player, but his managerial skills leave a lot to be desired... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeking6 Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, IUFLA said: Yeah, it was funny... But I have to believe he was looking for an early start to the All-Star break... There's not a whole lot that can happen in 5 pitches to get that worked up about... Appreciate what he did as a player, but his managerial skills leave a lot to be desired... Yep...and I don't even know where to go right now. I'll go back to the Tampa well again....but Jed needs to hit the road too. It's been 4 years since the start of the breakdown and trades,etc.....and right now we have 2 starting pitchers and 4 maybe 5 every day starters. Not a good use of his time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted July 9, 2023 Report Share Posted July 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Seeking6 said: I did like his comment to the ump....people can find it online but basically had the Yankees announcers laughing too. Ross just isn't getting it done in concert with Cubs ownership/talent evaluation,etc....just like the college game if guys come up via the system or via trades and they don't work maybe we need to change the talent evaluator. IE Jed. I'll take the entire Rays mgt group and start over. Where are all the guys they got for Baez, Bryant, and Rizzo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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