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Maedhros Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 14 hours ago, IU Scott said: The Braves signed their young stars early to keep them away from Arbitration. They did it with Acuna and Albies after their second year and it was pretty friendly contract for the team. Jumping in as a Braves fan to remark on how insane this is. Best team in baseball this year, and set to be that way for a while: C Sean Murphy - signed through 2029 1B Matt Olson - signed through 2030 2B Ozzie Albies - signed through 2027 SS Orlando Arcia - signed through 2026 3B Austin Riley - signed through 2033 CF Ronald Acuna - signed through 2028 CF Michael Harris II - signed through 2032 Every one of those guys is an All Star this year, except Harris who was ROY last season and is still just 22. It's been great watching this team rake, AND knowing this core will be together for another 4 or 5 years at least. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 23 minutes ago, Maedhros said: Jumping in as a Braves fan to remark on how insane this is. Best team in baseball this year, and set to be that way for a while: C Sean Murphy - signed through 2029 1B Matt Olson - signed through 2030 2B Ozzie Albies - signed through 2027 SS Orlando Arcia - signed through 2026 3B Austin Riley - signed through 2033 CF Ronald Acuna - signed through 2028 CF Michael Harris II - signed through 2032 Every one of those guys is an All Star this year, except Harris who was ROY last season and is still just 22. It's been great watching this team rake, AND knowing this core will be together for another 4 or 5 years at least. I guess I don't understand why the Reds couldn't do something similar... I know the Reds don't have quite this position group, and certainly not the proven players these ATL guys are... but Steer, Diaz, Stepheson, imo, should be cornerstones.. essentially no matter the price tag. Get it done early and save money. Look not EVERY single athlete ONLY wants top dollars.. idk. Maybe you get a great price for one of those guys. I'm mostly bored during the All Star break haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, btownqb said: I guess I don't understand why the Reds couldn't do something similar... I know the Reds don't have quite this position group, and certainly not the proven players these ATL guys are... but Steer, Diaz, Stepheson, imo, should be cornerstones.. essentially no matter the price tag. Get it done early and save money. Look not EVERY single athlete ONLY wants top dollars.. idk. Maybe you get a great price for one of those guys. I'm mostly bored during the All Star break haha Curious as to why you are a believer in Stephenson. Poor defensive catcher Average power numbers for catcher Well below average power numbers for DH Strikes out a lot Edited July 11, 2023 by 5fouls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 16 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Curious as to why you are a believer in Stephenson. Poor defensive catcher Average power numbers for catcher Well below average power numbers for DH Strikes out a lot Imo-- he's closer to avg defensively (ultimately I think the "middle" of any position in pro sports is incredibly close) .. as a hitter.. Since June 6th(EDLC was called up that day)-- 97ABs 4HR 15RBIs .289/.369/.433 as your 8 hole hitter. But there's more to that opinion than JUST his #s.. I feel like stability at that position has some value. I feel EDLC is a superstar, McLain is damn good, Friedl same thing.. I do think Votto will bang for the next 1.5 years.. Contract wise help me-- Fraley will be first year of arbitration, Benson will be pre arbitration.. those will are almost guaranteed to be on the roster next year, right? All of that... plus CES, Steer... Marte. That's a lot of fire power... maybe a good route moving forward would be Stephenson for 130 games a year, plus a solid defensive catcher as a side kick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 Can you help me why you're so adamant why he's poor defensively? I truly don't know. I am strictly going to eye test. What #s prove that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 https://blogredmachine.com/posts/reds-rumors-preliminary-talks-graham-ashcraft-contract-extension Article I found Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 https://blogredmachine.com/posts/reds-projected-extensions-tyler-stephenson-jonathan-india-more-than-affordable Solid article, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 13 minutes ago, btownqb said: Can you help me why you're so adamant why he's poor defensively? I truly don't know. I am strictly going to eye test. What #s prove that? Not speaking for him but I do remember a stat where the pitchers ERA is a lot higher with him catching compared to the other two catchers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, btownqb said: https://blogredmachine.com/posts/reds-rumors-preliminary-talks-graham-ashcraft-contract-extension Article I found They just extended Green so hopefully they will do the same thing the next few years with all of their young players. I can see players like India and Fraley as trade pieces for more pitching help once CES and Marte comes up. Edited July 11, 2023 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, IU Scott said: They just extended Green so hopefully they will do the same thing the next few years with all of their young players. I can see players like India and Fraley as trade pieces for more pitching help once CES and Marye comes up. Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 33 minutes ago, IU Scott said: Not speaking for him but I do remember a stat where the pitchers ERA is a lot higher with him catching compared to the other two catchers Stephenson’s ERA: 5.13, 0 errors, and 2 pass balls Maile’s ERA: 4.97, 3 errors, and 2 pass balls Casali’s ERA: 4.38, 2 errors, and 1 pass ball One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of the ERA could be affected by what pitchers they’re catching. For example Maile has caught all of Abbott’s games for example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 40 minutes ago, IU Scott said: They just extended Green so hopefully they will do the same thing the next few years with all of their young players. I can see players like India and Fraley as trade pieces for more pitching help once CES and Marye comes up. It’s possible they could look to do that however they will soon have a log jam of young pitchers vying for the rotation. Some will move to the pen but unless those guys fetch a superstar I’m not sure that’s the route they’ll go. Greene, Lodollo, Abbott, Ashcraft, Williamson, and Phillips could all be in the rotation by August. Then they’ve got several more arms between high A and AAA that aren’t that far away. They also just drafted several college arms as well. Lowder for example could potentially be ready by sometime next year. The pitching might not be the need everyone thinks in the near future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 minute ago, DC2345 said: It’s possible they could look to do that however they will soon have a log jam of young pitchers vying for the rotation. Some will move to the pen but unless those guys fetch a superstar I’m not sure that’s the route they’ll go. Greene, Lodollo, Abbott, Ashcraft, Williamson, and Phillips could all be in the rotation by August. Then they’ve got several more arms between high A and AAA that aren’t that far away. They also just drafted several college arms as well. Lowder for example could potentially be ready by sometime next year. The pitching might not be the need everyone thinks in the near future. I agree with this as well. It's been mentioned, if you could find a top level LHP out of the pen.. FA or a trade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2345 Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 Just now, btownqb said: I agree with this as well. It's been mentioned, if you could find a top level LHP out of the pen.. FA or a trade... That’ll be the biggest need moving forward. Hopefully at the deadline but it definitely needs to be addressed this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, DC2345 said: It’s possible they could look to do that however they will soon have a log jam of young pitchers vying for the rotation. Some will move to the pen but unless those guys fetch a superstar I’m not sure that’s the route they’ll go. Greene, Lodollo, Abbott, Ashcraft, Williamson, and Phillips could all be in the rotation by August. Then they’ve got several more arms between high A and AAA that aren’t that far away. They also just drafted several college arms as well. Lowder for example could potentially be ready by sometime next year. The pitching might not be the need everyone thinks in the near future. I think we need an experience starter near the top of the rotation to help the young guys out. Also I we have a logjam at position players as well that needs unjammed a little. Say in two years I would like to see a lineup like this DH CES 1B Steer 2B McClain SS EDLC 3B Marte LF Benson CF Freidl RF ? C ? I see guys like Senzel, India and Stephenson as expendable for a starter and maybe a RF Edited July 11, 2023 by IU Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, IU Scott said: I think we need an experience starter near the top of the rotation to help the young guys out. Also I we have a logjam at position players as well that needs unjammed a little. Say in two years I would like to see a lineup like this DH CES 1B Steer 2B McClain SS EDLC LF Benson CF Freidl RF ? C ? I see guys like Senzel, India and Stephenson as expendable for a starter and maybe a RF I think Elly is going to play third, same with McLain at SS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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5fouls Posted July 11, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 hours ago, IU Scott said: I think we need an experience starter near the top of the rotation to help the young guys out. Also I we have a logjam at position players as well that needs unjammed a little. Say in two years I would like to see a lineup like this DH CES 1B Steer 2B McClain SS EDLC LF Benson CF Freidl RF ? C ? I see guys like Senzel, India and Stephenson as expendable for a starter and maybe a RF Scott, in his best Norman Dale voice. "My team is on the field. Don't need no damn third baseman." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proud2BAHoosier Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 Hey Reds fans, looks like 2 former teammates will reunite on the Yankees bench as the Yanks hired Sean Casey as their new hitting coach. Will he make a difference to the lethargic offense? We'll see... Stay Tuned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 42 minutes ago, 5fouls said: Scott, in his best Norman Dale voice. "My team is on the field. Don't need no damn third baseman." I had Marte at 3B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted July 11, 2023 Report Share Posted July 11, 2023 Anyone else feel as apathetic about the All-Star game as I do? Used to be must see viewing. I can’t remember the last time I watched even an inning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, IU Scott said: I had Marte at 3B Well, you didn't pout it in your post. Edited July 12, 2023 by 5fouls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5fouls Posted July 12, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Steubenhoosier said: Anyone else feel as apathetic about the All-Star game as I do? Used to be must see viewing. I can’t remember the last time I watched even an inning I still love it. I am disappointed in the way they did player introductions this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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