IU Scott Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, btownqb said: TJD is avg 34. What RMK did in 1987 is not overly relevant for basketball now. We don't have any kids, as of now, that need to average "big minutes", other than the two that do now Unless, XJ stays out of foul trouble.. he will average more then. We just don't have the personnel make up to just play 7 guys. Idk how that could work for our team. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/1992-04-04-duke.html Here's our box score against Duke in 1992. Looks very similar to what we ultimately want to get to. You do realize that was due to foul trouble with IU having 4 guys foul out against Duke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, IU Scott said: I just don't think we need to have 5 subs in at one time. If you have a 8 man rotation doesn't mean they would play anymore minutes. You would just stagger the lineups like I posted the other day. 4-5 position TJD,Race and Geronimo 2-3 position Kopp, Stewart, Galloway 1 position Johnson and RP. Durr has to play. There is no chance we can survive, regularly without his 5-7mins a game. Eventually we are going to have some games where TJd and RT are in foul trouble, so Durr has to play. Take out JG and play Kopp at the 4, some. You might be able to do that. But why? Just play the 9-10 you've been rolling with. And yeah, against Iowa those 5 did not perform well. We have seen times where it is has, we absolutely have. Edited January 16, 2022 by btownqb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, IU Scott said: You do realize that was due to foul trouble with IU having 4 guys foul out against Duke Actually that's not true. That team didn't have a player average over 30mpg. They played 8 guys every game and in the majority of them, they played 10 guys. The E8 game vs UCLA the mins looked the same as this one. No one played big mins. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/1992-03-28-indiana.html Things will tighten up some, naturally, as the season progresses. But, my whole point here is.. I dont understand why it's SUCH a talking point? Edited January 16, 2022 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, IU Scott said: You do realize that was due to foul trouble with IU having 4 guys foul out against Duke Man that team recruited talent. 7 IU guys played at least 20 minutes in that game. 4/7 were McDonalds All-Americans, another guy was a Parade All American plus Cheaney. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, IU878176 said: Man that team recruited talent. 7 IU guys played at least 20 minutes in that game. 4/7 were McDonalds All-Americans, another guy was a Parade All American plus Cheaney. Loaded. Absolutely loaded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, btownqb said: Actually that's not true. That team didn't have a player average over 30mpg. They played 8 guys every game and in the majority of them, they played 10 guys. The E8 game vs UCLA the mins looked the same as this one. Things will tighten up some, naturally, as the season progresses. But, my whole point here is.. I dont understand why it's SUCH a talking point? The 91-92 only had 10 scholarship players available since P. Graham and Brian Evans redshirted. Leary and Lindeman very rarely got off the bench unless of foul trouble or a blowout. So in the tournament they played Anderson, Meeks and H. Graham in tbe rotation. The last couple of years being in quarantine so much I have watched a lot of games from that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, IU Scott said: The 91-92 only had 10 scholarship players available since P. Graham and Brian Evans redshirted. Leary and Lindeman very rarely got off the bench unless of foul trouble or a blowout. So in the tournament they played Anderson, Meeks and H. Graham in tbe rotation. The last couple of years being in quarantine so much I have watched a lot of games from that year. Leary and Lindeman played in over 2/3 of the games and played more mpg then Durr does. And foul trouble is the exact reason he's gotta play, some. I don't think anyone wants him for long spurts, but the 3-4 min he plays per half are absolutely necessary and valuable. Edited January 16, 2022 by btownqb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 it is fascinating to watch 2 guys i never agree with argue. i'm curious to see who falls asleep first. otherwise this one is going the distance! 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: it is fascinating to watch 2 guys i never agree with argue. i'm curious to see who falls asleep first. otherwise this one is going the distance! Then you haven't been in the same room as Stephen A. Smith and Skip Bayless. Those two would argue over paint drying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btownqb Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 35 minutes ago, NCHoosier32 said: it is fascinating to watch 2 guys i never agree with argue. i'm curious to see who falls asleep first. otherwise this one is going the distance! It's Sunday. I was cooking and was bored. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, btownqb said: It's Sunday. I was cooking and was bored. 🤷♂️ Today is my son's birthday and we are having a birthday dinner for him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCHoosier32 Posted January 16, 2022 Report Share Posted January 16, 2022 call it a draw! it is always interesting how both guys talk in such absolutes. leave absolutely no room to consider someone else could have a good point or just might actually be right. clash of the titans! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euroclydon Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 Big game. Lose this one and you lose a lot of fan support. Interested to see if anything changes with starters and rotations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13th&Jackson Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 4 hours ago, IU878176 said: Man that team recruited talent. 7 IU guys played at least 20 minutes in that game. 4/7 were McDonalds All-Americans, another guy was a Parade All American plus Cheaney. Here’s an interesting fact I recently heard. MI currently has three freshmen MCD AAs, their first MAAs since 2002, meaning Belen never had one, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purdue7 Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 Nebraska really has one good big man in Walker TJD should feast if they get him the ball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steubenhoosier Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Euroclydon said: Big game. Lose this one and you lose a lot of fan support. Interested to see if anything changes with starters and rotations. I would hope that fan support, in the first year of a coaching tenure, is not based on any one game. If that is the case, I think that’s more an indictment of the fans than the program 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU Scott Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: I would hope that fan support, in the first year of a coaching tenure, is not based on any one game. If that is the case, I think that’s more an indictment of the fans than the program Amen to that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 5 hours ago, IU Scott said: The 91-92 only had 10 scholarship players available since P. Graham and Brian Evans redshirted. Leary and Lindeman very rarely got off the bench unless of foul trouble or a blowout. So in the tournament they played Anderson, Meeks and H. Graham in tbe rotation. The last couple of years being in quarantine so much I have watched a lot of games from that year. Ahhh, the great but not often mentioned Horace Graham. How could we forget? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy River Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 5 hours ago, btownqb said: TJD is avg 34. What RMK did in 1987 is not overly relevant for basketball now. We don't have any kids, as of now, that need to average "big minutes", other than the two that do now. Unless, XJ stays out of foul trouble.. he will average more then. We just don't have the personnel make up to just play 7 guys. Idk how that could work for our team. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/1992-04-04-duke.html Here's our box score against Duke in 1992. Looks very similar to what we ultimately want to get to. I was at that game, and that is when/where my wholly unhealthy hatred of Ted Valentine was born. Walking out of the arena that night, the UC fans were commenting how badly we had been screwed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milehi Fan Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 58 minutes ago, Purdue7 said: Nebraska really has one good big man in Walker TJD should feast if they get him the ball The guards will probably forget to feed the post. And CMW will tell us, for the 1000th time, he has to get the team over the hump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 42 minutes ago, Steubenhoosier said: I would hope that fan support, in the first year of a coaching tenure, is not based on any one game. If that is the case, I think that’s more an indictment of the fans than the program I think we should start giving IU men’s basketball coaches 10 day contracts similar to what the NBA offers to marginal players. That would give us the opportunity to evaluate 12-15 coaches per year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IU878176 Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, Milehi Fan said: The guards will probably forget to feed the post. And CMW will tell us, for the 1000th time, he has to get the team over the hump. He has been coach for 1/2 season and is going to tell us something the the 1,000th time?!?!??? OK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogermci Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 IU wins by double digits tomorrow. We are a nightmare matchup for the Huskers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaHoosierFan Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, btownqb said: He called a TO pretty quick the other night because that 10-0 run was QUICK lol They did it in waves the other night and then they didn't perform. Those 5 guys are perfectly capable of playing coherent basketball, but Bates might be the odd man out though. But yeah, I mean, I don't want to see 5 subs again, I just dont see it as a big deal though. I think it's more difficult to pick and choose when people go in, rather than having a plan on when to sub. Plus, the subs, ideally would be much more comfortable playing together because that's what they do in practice. It wasn't good the other night. I like the idea of playing 9-10 guys a night, though. I think we have 8 guys that average more than 10 mins a game in conference play, and JG avgs 9mph. More guys are engaged in practice because they know their number will be called on. i do get what you're saying but 300 other college level teams figure out how to sub their starters out and when to do it. I am sure we'll figure it out and while i agree the 5 man second team can play, they don't move the needle forward. We don't extent leads with them. We hold server or lose slightly. If we subbed 1 or 2 at a time, we might be able to maintain the forward momentum Edited January 17, 2022 by IowaHoosierFan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fundamentals Posted January 17, 2022 Report Share Posted January 17, 2022 Nebraska was a problem in first game breaking our half court D down via numerous straight line dribbles to the rim, that is obscured by the final score, and the injured McGowan is set to return. Very concerned they get a bit of momentum and this one gets away from us. Hope like crazy I am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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