1 minute ago, Seeking6 said:

I had Berger this past week in my pool. He made a charge but missed about 7-8 7 footers this week. Still a fun tourney to watch. Up next is Harding Park. 7 par 4's over 460 but also 2 short one's that are driveable. Trying to figure out who to choose.

The risk is if I don't go chalk I could lose out on winnings that majority of my pool will make. I think Rory is the favorite which is mindblowing to me. Brooks deserves plenty of attention and I'll probably end up picking him but I keep staring at Gary Woodland's name.

 

It's a major and Kopeka should have extra motivation after yesterday.  

19 hours ago, RoadToZion said:

It’s Rickies day. Bank it! 

There's always the next one.  

What the headline tells us

260 employees in Georgia school district have tested positive for Covid-19 or been exposed

What the imbedded news story does NOT tell us,

• How many of the 260 have actually tested positive versus just been exposed.  Are there 15 positives and 245 exposures?  The opposite?
• How many of the 'exposed' actually tested negative.  Are they all still considered at risk.  
• How old are the numbers?  The story states the number is fluid.  Does that mean that some of the 260 goes back to March, or are these numbers as of this moment?
• How many TOTAL employees does the district have.  I looked it up.  The district employees 24,900 people.  The math says 260 is approximately 1%.

Again, we have a headline that is intended to spawn fear, not inform.  The average American is going to see '260' and 'school' and frame an opinion that does not match the reality.  Yes, things are not good in Georgia right now.  But, the headline is intended just as much for people in Iowa, Vermont, Indiana and Hawaii as it is to those in Georgia.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/03/us/gwinnett-schools-covid-employees/index.html

4 hours ago, Leathernecks said:

I don't mean this in a mean way, but I think that's a very misguided statement. We do all kinds of drills, training, emotional work, and many other things to try to prevent school shootings.

Maybe if our crappy educational system created the amount of concern Covid has, we could improve on our embarrassingly poor education.

I'm not looking at things like drills and training performed at individual school systems.  I'll leave it at that.

3 hours ago, Reacher said:

Schools were set to get $100 billion + in the Covid bill congress is debating. Granted they could have used it earlier, but there will be $. 

HS kids are still at a very low risk. More likely to die from the flu than Covid. Hopefully, flu will be down this year due to masks, handwashing, distancing, etc. Did teachers complain about getting the flu from students? I'm sure teachers have died from diseases picked up from students. This is not new. 

I like the idea of HS kids going 2 days one week and 3 the next with elearning on the off days. Reduces capacity by 50%. Older, at risk, teachers can be in charge of the e learning. Of course, certain localaties may need to suspend school for a week or two or adjust for their particular circumstances. I like the idea of starting a couple weeks early so there is flexibility to take a week or two off later. 

Kids Jr High and younger should be in school full time. Especially in the schools with more economically challenged kids. 

Just my opinions after talking with a number of teachers. I also heard e learning this last spring was a joke. 

E-learning in any capacity is a total cluster.  The kids need to be in the classroom.  

If only  school shootings created the amount of concern Covid has, maybe a lot of those could have been prevented.

2 minutes ago, RoadToZion said:

It’s Rickies day. Bank it! 

I like Rickie.  Won't complain about any of them, but would be good to see Rickie get one.  It's been a while.

A couple of fantastic pairings in the mix for today's final round of the St. Jude

Rickie Fowler & Brooks Koepka in the 2nd to last pairing

Justin Thomas and Phil Mickelson in the 3rd to last pairing.  

7 day average death total in Indiana (7) is the lowest it has been since 3/28.  

46 minutes ago, dgambill said:

Here is a question and I’m sure it’s been covered in a almost thr 200 pages but why are we not wanting to send our kids (especially say 12 and under back to school?) All the science and evidence I’ve seen universally say such children are at such a minuscule risk or getting or even more importantly spreading the virus. The risk of not having these kids in school where so many get their nutritional health, mental health, and even where most cases of abuse are seen seems to way out weigh the risks. 
I get some may need to be kept home for medical reasons or parents decision and some teachers may need to opt out as well but it seems children will suffer more not going to school than the few and rare cases that we’ve seem from this virus could harm. 
You can’t tell me in a country where we spend more per capita then anywhere in the world we can’t put in safe guards for teachers even when they will be exposed to the most low risk threats there are. I go to work everyday (with precautions) because I’m considered essential by my employer. Are teachers not essential? Haven’t they not told us for years they are? I’m sure there are tons of people displaced from their current jobs that would be happy to teach for a year to feed their family and save their homes if some teachers need to opt out. I know we have a lot of teachers on this board (as I have several in my immediate family) so I’m wondering if this is a union thing...political thing...what is it? When the rest of us are out there taking the same risks are they just...well guess what makes them exempt from what all the rest of us are going through...and if the school doesn’t open do I get my tax money back...(I know the answer to that) If it’s political motivation I think we can just say political and save the arguement and keep this in forum rules but if isn’t I’d like to know the reasons. Thanks!!

Doesn't directly answer your question, but it's mind-boggling to me how out of touch some parents are when they make the decision to have their kid do virtual learning.  There have literally been parents on the social media sites for the local schools asking questions like "Can my kid still participate in sports if they do virtual learning?'.  Are they serious?  If they feel their child is at risk in the classroom, do they not understand that most sports are even riskier?

I think a lot of parents are choosing virtual learning because they think it will be 'easier' for Billy or Sally to make good grades.  The last 2 months of school last year were a total joke.  My kids learned nothing and had to put forth very little effort.  My cousin, who is a teacher in another district, indicated that they were pressured to give kids passing grades the 4th quarter last year, even if they did no work.  I have to think that this years' virtual learning will be quite different, and Billy, Sally, and Mom will be in for a rude awakening.   

Unnecessary fear-inspiring headline

20,000 more Americans could die from Covid-19 in the next 21 days, CDC ensemble forecast shows

https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/02/health/us-coronavirus-sunday/index.html

Considering the average daily deaths over the last 7 days has been over 1,100, I wonder if the reporter realizes that the numbers in her headline would actually be an improvement.

It's bad, I get it.  But, I really wish the media would inform us and stop trying to scare us.  

Meanwhile, Paul George only had 1 assist tonight against the Pelicans.  

1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

Pacers down by 10 with 8 minutes to go then score 39 points in the last 8 minutes.  Outscored them 46-34 in the 4th quarter

I didn't even have to watch it to know how the game was going.  I just needed to listen to the screams from the basement by my 16 year old (anger/agony or joy/excitement).  

Pacers survive a subpar performance by TJ Warren (only 53 points) and defeat the Sixers.

With masks becoming a requirement in most states and in many major retailers, any guesses on how long before we start seeing any significant improvement in the numbers?  

Getting back on track.  New rumor is that John Lennon died of Covid-19.  

9 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

Or do we have 2 posters not living in Pacers angst - fed denial? 

- Transfer from the IU basketball team.....You're dead to me

- Leave the Reds as a free agent......You're dead to me.

- Ask for a trade from the Pacers......You're dead to me.

- Go out on a date with one of my exes......I feel very, very sorry for you  

Do we have 2 posters now with a man crush on PG?

List of countries with highest population densities.  Bangladesh is almost twice as densely populated as any other country on the planet.  

Density of the most populous countries[change | change source]

This list consists of the top 100 most populous countries (see also List of countries and dependencies by population).

Pos.	Country (or dependent territory)	Area (km2)	Area (mi2)	Population	Density (pop./km2)	Density (pop./mi2)	Date	Population source
1	Bangladesh	143,998	55,598	169,030,162	1,174	3,040	July 28, 2020	Official population clock
2	Taiwan	36,197	13,976	23,596,266	652	1,689	October 31, 2019	Monthly official estimate
2	South Korea	100,210	38,691	51,811,167	517	1,339	July 1, 2019	Official Annual projection
3	Rwanda	26,338	10,169	12,374,397	470	1,217	July 1, 2019	Official projection
4	Netherlands	41,526	16,033	17,415,008	419	1,086	July 28, 2020	Official population clock
5	Haiti	27,065	10,450	11,263,077	416	1,077	July 1, 2019	UN projection
6	Israel	22,072	8,522	9,229,375	418	1,083	July 28, 2020	Official population clock
7	India	3,287,240	1,269,211	1,365,455,850	415	1,076	July 28, 2020	Population clock
8	Burundi	27,816	10,740	10,953,317	394	1,020	July 1, 2019	Official annual projection
9	Belgium	30,528	11,787	11,505,732	377	976	October 1, 2019	Official monthly estimate
10	Philippines	300,000	115,831	109,768,280	366	948	July 28, 2020	Official population clock

3 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

None of those stats have anything to do with social distancing.  You might as well say 2 + 2 = Green. 

Nice deflection.  But, putting 164 million people into the space the size of Illinois absolutely has an impact on social distancing.  Hell, we heard all about how critical population density was early in the Corona crisis, because of how hard New Jersey, with the highest population density in the country, got hit.  Even now, the top 5 deaths per 1 million people in the U.S. are New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island.  All but New York are also in the top 4 in population density, and New York is 7th.

Taking it a step further, why have metropolitan areas been hit harder than rural ones?  Why have meat packing plants been hit harder than timber companies?  Why did schools close?  Why are sports stadiums empty while games go on?  Why do restaurants have limited capacity?  The answer to all of those is because the more people in close proximity of each other, the more likely it is that the virus spreads.  And, the government has taken measures to try and limit those gatherings.  Yet, Bangladesh, due to it's number of people in a small area, very likely cannot 'social distance' as well as the United States, but has better Covid results.   

Social distancing by itself is not going to solve this crisis.  I've tossed out several alternative causes (environment, diet, genetics, etc.) that could also be factors, and other posters have provided information that actually supports some of that.  Yet, your argument seems to be that Bangladesh has simply done a better job at social distancing, which none of us really know whether they have or not.   

Student in Greenfield, Indiana went to school while awaiting results of a Covid test.  Turns out the student was positive.

If the parents had reason to get this child tested, why on earth did they not keep him/her home until they received the results?

Makes me want to bang my head on the wall.  

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/greenfield-central-schools-begin-in-person-classes-anticipating-eventual-coronavirus-case/531-e1b7e9f2-f36d-468d-9ab2-2139a1b1e4f6

On 7/30/2020 at 10:16 AM, rico said:

July 30th, 1975.  Jimmy Hoffa disappears.

Rumor is that when he is officially declared dead, the cause of death will be listed as Coronavirus.  

3 minutes ago, Lostin76 said:

Another thing I wonder about that Fouls touched on is dietary. We have consistently seen in our cases that obesity and heart conditions make this more deadly. I haven't checked the numbers, but I'd imagine that we have much higher levels of obesity than Bangladesh.

 

I would surmise you are correct on the obesity comparison between the two countries.  And, that's what is so frustrating to me. There has not been significant discussion on things like that.  They may be occurring behind closed doors in the scientific community, but they are not getting the media attention that masks and social distancing are.  I agree that masks and social distancing can make a difference in the spread of the virus.    But, the virus train still has a pretty good head of steam even with better controls in place on those fronts.  we have to start looking for other factors and seeing what information we can gather from them as well.  

Encouraging news on the immunity front.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/29/opinions/immune-system-antibody-covid-19-reinfection-bromage/index.html

So, if it's not social distancing (as shown in earlier posts) that has allowed Bangladesh to deal with the virus better than us, what is it?

Not surprisingly, it's not because they have better healthcare.

Ranking of top 100 healthcare systems in the world.

U.S. is 37th (embarrassingly low)

Bangladesh is unranked (outside the top 100)

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/best-healthcare-in-the-world

So, can we at least consider the fact that it may be environmental, genetic, or dietary.  How many lives could be saved if we take a common sense look at those as possibilities?

Bangladesh:

• 57,321 square miles
• 164,820,000 population
• 3,111 Covid Deaths

Illinois:

• 57,913 square miles
• 12,659,000 population
• 7,670 Covid Deaths

That's not a good look for those who insist social distancing is the answer. Don't get me wrong.  I think social distancing is important.  but, I also thing there are other factors that are not even being considered because everyone is so caught up with the narrative we keep hearing from the media.  

There are other things in play here, and people are dying because we are choosing to ignore them.