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  2. Coronavirus

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    Discussion topic.  New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Connecticut are now doing much better than the rest of the country.  Is it because they are social distancing and masking better?  Or. could it be a little bit of the herd effect.  In other words, did they got hit so hard in March & April that the virus is not finding as many available victims.

    :Possibly seeing something similar happening with the states that began to get slammed this summer.  Arizona's pace has slowed quite a bit while California, Texas, and Florida are still setting up high numbers.  The difference?  Arizona has a much smaller population than the others..  So, is it possible that 'herding' is starting to kick in for Arizona, while the others still have a ways to go.  

     

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  3. PGA/General Golf

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    1 minute ago, Seeking6 said:

    I went Brooks....we have 44 in our pool. Brooks was chosen 18 times. Plenty of Xander, JT,etc.....but darn I really wanted to take Gary Woodland and make ground up on leaders.

    Woodland off to a good start.  Now, in your pool, if Woodland and Koepka would tie for 2nd, is it equal points?  Or, are the picks weighted so that Woodland would pay out better?

  5. PGA/General Golf

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    2 hours ago, Seeking6 said:

    Just settling in for the late rounds. Glad Tiger was early today (-2 is solid) and he gets almost a full day of rest before going out at 5pm EST tomorrow. Might not be a big deal to others but him it is....the early/late Thursday/Friday tee times is perfect.

    Usual suspects up top. JT struggled, Rory did as well. 

    At what point does Jordan Speith stop being considered a 'marquee' player?

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  7. Coronavirus

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    The 7 day average of new cases in the U.S. has started to trend downward.  Daily deaths over the 7 day trend are also down, but the line is not as steep.  The next 7-10 days will really tell us a lot about where we are at as a county.

    Meanwhile, Indiana, unfortunately, set a daily high mark of new cases with 1,051, the first time the state recorded over 1,000.  I hope these are just a lag in numbers from infections that started before the statewide mask requirement on the 29th.  I would hope in the next 7-10 days, after the mask requirement has had a time to make a difference, that we see numbers go back down.  

  10. Coronavirus

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    4 minutes ago, Proud2BAHoosier said:

    FWIW, school was back in session today down here in Tell City. 85% of the parents said they wanted their kids in school.

    At Silver Creek, we don't start back until next week, but I am surprised by the number of parents that chose the virtual option for their kids.  I didn't really put a lot of thought into it, but if you would have asked, I would have guessed it to be about 10%, but based on the numbers being thrown out there, it seems to be closer to 20%.

  11. Coronavirus

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    1 minute ago, IU Scott said:

    I would say that right now it would be better to go with e-learning until the first of the year.

    My kids did not get much at all out of e-learning, beyond enjoying the opportunity to be a little lazy.  I know these are extraordinary times, but I worry about how these interruptions in their academic careers will impact them long term.  

  14. Coronavirus

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    6 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

    Now I'm offensive? OK Fouls.

    I apologize.  Your post was not offensive.  You expressed your opinion.  I was irritated that you took a little shot at me without directly quoting me, but then I turned around and did the same to you.  Except mine was even worse.  

     

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  15. Coronavirus

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    1 minute ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

    When you're comparing it to the flu and basically criticizing the decision on schools on that fl;u comparison, Fouls, it's pushback. Come on now. This has nothing to do with being too lenient, etc., it just looks like pushback to me. It's an empty comparison, to the flu. Of course no one says close schools etc. because of the flu. This aint the flu.

    In your opinion, should schools be closed because of the virus?.

  17. Coronavirus

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    1 hour ago, 5fouls said:

    Examples of how numbers can lie.

    If I were to give you these numbers, without any additional context, you would likely form an opinion about where Covid-19 is at in Indiana.

    4/27

    • Percentage of ICU beds in use for Covid-19 - 16.7%
    • ICU Beds Available - 44.2%

     

    8/3

    • Percentage of ICU beds in use for Covid - 17.3%
    • ICU beds available - 37.2%

     

    Those numbers see, to indicate that the state is worse off than when we were in the height of the crisis in April. Don't they?

    Now let's add some context and see what happens to the numbers.

    ICU Bed Total Capacity

    • 4/27 - 3,271 ICU beds
    • 8/3 - 2,167 ICU beds

     

    Actual In Use Numbers for Covid-19 Based on Capacity

    • 4/27 ICU beds in use for Covid-19 - 546
    • 8/3 ICU beds in use for Covid-19 - 374

     

    Now, I can't explain why ICU bed total capacity is so much lower now than it was then.  But, my point is that when we're given numbers, we really need to full context to understand what they mean.  This is similar to the Georgia school corp that had 256 positive tests among staff.  Sounds incredibly scary until you learn that the school corp employs over 26,000 people.

    If you want to verify my numbers, they can be found on the Indiana Department of Health Covid-19 page.  

     https://www.coronavirus.in.gov/

     

    I'll take note that no one is 'pushing back' on this. 

    Why?

    Because they can't.  

     

  18. Coronavirus

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    16 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

    I don’t get the pushback either or repeated efforts to downplay the virus. 

    Why is it pushback when someone has an opinion that some things related to the virus are too restrictive, but it's not pushback when someone has an opinion that some things related to the virus are too lenient?  

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  19. Coronavirus

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    9 minutes ago, Hoosierhoopster said:

    I don’t get the pushback either or repeated efforts to downplay the virus. 

    I'm not downplaying the virus.  I'm not saying don't wear masks.  I'm not saying we should pack 100,000 fans into a football stadium for a game.  What I am addressing is 1 specific aspect of the crisis.

    Should schools be opened or closed this fall?

    Do you have an opinion on that?

     

  20. Coronavirus

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    Posted · Edited by 5fouls

    Examples of how numbers can lie.

    If I were to give you these numbers, without any additional context, you would likely form an opinion about where Covid-19 is at in Indiana.

    4/27

    • Percentage of ICU beds in use for Covid-19 - 16.7%
    • ICU Beds Available - 44.2%

     

    8/3

    • Percentage of ICU beds in use for Covid - 17.3%
    • ICU beds available - 37.2%

     

    Those numbers see, to indicate that the state is worse off than when we were in the height of the crisis in April. Don't they?

    Now let's add some context and see what happens to the numbers.

    ICU Bed Total Capacity

    • 4/27 - 3,271 ICU beds
    • 8/3 - 2,167 ICU beds

     

    Actual In Use Numbers for Covid-19 Based on Capacity

    • 4/27 ICU beds in use for Covid-19 - 546
    • 8/3 ICU beds in use for Covid-19 - 374

     

    Now, I can't explain why ICU bed total capacity is so much lower now than it was then.  But, my point is that when we're given numbers, we really need to full context to understand what they mean.  This is similar to the Georgia school corp that had 256 positive tests among staff.  Sounds incredibly scary until you learn that the school corp employs over 26,000 people.

    If you want to verify my numbers, they can be found on the Indiana Department of Health Covid-19 page.  

     https://www.coronavirus.in.gov/

     

  21. Coronavirus

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    14 minutes ago, tdhoosier said:

    @Reacher But this is not the flu. You are asking 'what if' and comparing apples and oranges. Plus, schools shut down because of flu outbreaks. A few schools in my area shut down because of a peak in the flu in January. 

    Now take a virus that spreads much faster than the flu with an evelvating case count (in many areas in indiana) and you have a possible operational nightmare due to health related absences. One that needs to be prepared for and discussed. Please keep in mind that a good proportion of schools are staff and this virus is spreading amongst high school aged students just as quickly as it does in adults.

    I think you're missing the point of what i'm trying to convey. Please put health aside for a second. Please put media reports aside for a second. I'm talking about transmission and what that could mean for schools, purely from an operational standpoint. You think this concern is sensationalized? 

     

    Let me touch on a point regarding the comparison to flu.  There is a lot of concern, and rightfully so, about the asymptomatic spread of Covid-19.  That said, can't the flu be transmitted through asymptomatic people as well?  Yes, schools have been temporarily shut down by the flu.  But, that's when a large percentage of the student body were showing symptoms.  Nobody is testing asymptomatic students or doing contact tracing with the flu.  

    For the sake of argument, let's look at the case in Greenfield, where some middle school student received a positive test after the first day of school.  Ignore the fact that the child should not have been sent to school in the first place if they were awaiting test results.  Instead, look at it this way.  

    That case has received a lot of national attention, but the amount and tone it's received is overblown in my opinion.  

    • If the same kid was asymptomatic with the flu and went to school, no one would have ever known he/she even had the flu, because the kid would have never been tested.
    • Even if, for some reason, the kid found out they tested positive for the flu, it would not have caused a temporary shutdown of the school, and certainly would not have received national media attention.

    Covid-19 is scary to many because it is new.  Meanwhile, a similar situation that arises related to something familiar (flu),  is treated as an afterthought.    Why is that?  I think that's where we all have our diverse opinions.  My story above is to try to get someone to look at things the way I do in regards to how this should effect school. If you disagree with me, explain to me why..

     

     

  23. Coronavirus

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    10 minutes ago, jimsorgi said:

    You realize that there have been studies using HCQ to prevent infection as well as very early in infection, right? And those studies showed no effective results? 
     

    But sure, let’s go with random anecdotal evidence from surely reliable newspapers because it fits with the narrative we want to believe. 

    I keep hearing this, but no one has successfully explained Bangladesh to me.  Maybe it's not HCQ, but it's something, and if Bangladesh can do it, so can we.  Yet, we're not.

    And, for the record, there have been several reports/studies that indicate HCQ does have benefit (notice i did not say miracle cure).  Yet, you are choosing to ignore those.

     

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